Blender ships with a VR scene inspection addon. I'm wondering if you can install blender on the headset and work on your scene with the 2d desktop and then launch the VR scene Inspection to view it in 3D VR? Also can you stream blender from a desktop to the headset and launch the scene inspection from the headset? I'm really curious about these to work flows.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/72174828

In all seriousness, I am not actually doing that. I already have my Frame, and while I have noticed some little downsides so far (just like with any piece of technology), they are mostly software issues that should be able to be addressed with an update. I think most users will be happy with the product.

This video goes over some frequently asked questions in the comments of the previous video. Namely multitasking, 2D games with floating windows, and other "P...

Invidious

Hey guys,

I received my Frame a few days ago and I had some time to play with it and I wanted to tell you about a few things that I found while playing with it, in hope that some of you find this useful :)

• Camera passthrough can be colored. By that I mean the monochrome camera passthough can have a color filter applied, it has a bluish purplish filter by default, but you can make it green, red, orange or whatever color!
• SteamVR Home is nowhere to be found. There is an option in the Advanced Options in VR Settings, but it doesn't do anything. I really wish Valve would port it, and let us install SteamVR Home on our Frame (Might be outdated, but I still like it).
• When you are in darkness, and the Frame turn its camera into the UV/IR mode, it has a cool effect on the controller, the shell looks like it's transparent and you can see the inside of your controllers (I wanted to take a screenshot but the quality is so bad I gave up ahah)

I'm sure I'll have more things to say later, I just want to find the weird and niche features of this thing that no one talks about. Feel free to share yours if you have any! :)

First time VR user.

Got my frame today, and tried to get the SO excited about it.

Problem is: what games are available?

I had talked to them prior to purchasing, explaining the state of the industry, there aren't thousands of titles available, and the ones that are available aren't all super long and engaging etc etc.

The frame is new, and trying to push the industry forward, so it'll get better, but for now it's rough. This was understood fully.

Here's the problem: Actually FINDING the currently verified games.

I don't care if there's only a couple dozen, I want to see them in a curated list. But as far as I can tell, that doesn't exist.

I know it's still early, and proton db doesn't have a list yet. But Valve could've done it easily. In fact, they got halfway there.

Trudging through the menus in the steam store, I did find a "great on deck" list. And googling the subject I found several people talking about the "great on frame" list that exists, but I could not find it.

Searching for "great on" showed a number of lists, including "great on deck" but no "great on frame". Why on earth not?

Eventually I fumbled my way to the steam frame product page, and found a tiny single word little blue link. Clicking that brought me to the fabled "great on frame" list. And to its credit, all the games there were marked as verified great on frame onboard etc etc.

Great! Right? Wrong. That list includes ALL great on frame games, including all the non VR ones. Which is fine, we need a list for those too, but there should be two lists.

So I had to go through one by one and try to find games that were both verified on frame, AND VR enabled. The first one we downloaded that matched that criteria? Opened in non VR mode and there was no clear way to make it work. Very frustrating, lots of lost time.

Eventually we found a few that looked fun. Moss, red matter, and I expect you to die. But by that time we were so done that we just put it away for the night. Didn't even try to play them yet. We did play a little beat saber.

I'm not trying to complain too much, I know I'm very lucky to both be in a position to buy this thing, and to have gotten one so early. But it was an expensive purchase that, while my SO agreed to and as excited for, was very frustrating and disappointing first experience.

Clunky and cludgy, no clear way to find what we're looking for. The SO was navigating the store with the frame for a bit and kept losing the ability to navigate the store because they'd click on the wrong thing or press the wrong button, and end up highlighting some button in the corner of the screen. And no joy in finding anything to play when we actually got it to work.

Maybe there's a better way? And we both missed it? But... If two people can't figure it out.. you might have a user interface problem.

The software side will get better with time. Little things will be fixed. And I explained that. All is well.

But Valve should've known better. I got a deck at launch, I know the pains we had then, and I figured they would've learned from that.

Hopefully by the time everyone else gets there's, they will have resolved this issue.

I'm still really excited for this thing.

Thanks for coming to TED talk.

I just learned (and successfully tested) that we don't need an account to use PaySafe. I thought that was mandatory in order to pay anywhere, like PayPal is. And Steam allows paying (or adding to wallet) directly from the PaySafe code. Meaning, we can buy the code in a local shop anonymously and just add it to the account.

When asked to pay in Steam, just select PaySafe as the method, then the webpage to PaySafe will open where you enter the code from the receipt. After a minute or two, you should get a notification (usually through email). It's almost as easy as using a Steam Gift Card. At least here in Germany, Europe.

This is relevant for me, because physical Steam Gift Cards are official discontinued (the rest in the market will be usable, they just don't produce any anymore). And PaySafe works for me. In fact, I wonder to where I can pay with PaySafe else, outside of Steam. But that is a bit off-topic here off course...

Did you know this? Can you use PaySafe in your country? I hope PaySafe will stay as it is. What about the other Gift Cards, will they go away too or can people buy them for the consoles and other shops like Epic Games on PC?

These are all questions I had about the Frame before I got mine in the mail today, now I am paying it forward and outlining those answers here! These are thi...

Invidious

I’m so ootl cause I never really bothered with vr but I wanted to get the frame. Now I just discovered that apparently valve dabbled in vr already and I Read about the Index in some titles which got me confused. Why Are people so keenly interested in the Frame when the Index already exists? For what reason would one get over the other?

Got my Steam Frame yesterday and had a chance to play with it a bit. Figured I'd leave some details here since I haven't seen much.

Some background: My last headset was the OG Vive with Index Controllers. I've never used another headset other than a Quest 3 at a museum exhibit for a few minutes. So for me, the jump in quality is huge, but if you've kept up with the hardware it might not be.

So far, I'm really enjoying the Frame though it's not without issues. The headset is really comfortable and the initial setup was mostly pretty smooth. I did run into a bug where the keyboard input just stopped working while I was entering my wi-fi password, but a reboot fixed that.

I haven't been able to get streaming working (more on that later), but installing games on the headset worked well. I played Eleven Table Tennis (supported) and Maestro (not supported, but works) without any real issues. Neither of those games requires moving around the room so it was nice to be able to stand in the living room and just set my location instantly to start playing. No full room setup like the Vive so I'll definitely be using this more often. I've seen some complaints about the passthrough camera, but it worked great for me. I can't read text in that mode, but I was able to walk around the house without bumping into stuff just fine.

The streaming was the only real problem I had. I run Fedora 44 and was able to get the Frame to connect using the wifi dongle and give me the option to stream from my computer, but it would always fail. If you don't have SteamVR running on the host PC it just fails silently, but when I had it running I would get an error about video compression not being supported by my graphics card. I have a RX 9079XT so I doubt that's actually the problem, however I still haven't been able to figure out what I need to install to get it working. If I manage to fix it, I'll report back.

I got about an hour and a half of gameplay before the battery died on my but I expect that to be a bit better when streaming. You can play while plugged into power but the power supply that you can buy from valve doesn't have a super long cord.

Happy to answer any questions if you have them. I'm overall satisfied with the purchase and hope to see some software updates to fix the issues I did run into.

Guess who got their order email and threw their bottle in excitement?? (me, it was me.) But unfortunately is ergonomic kit is out of stock </3

How quickly are the order emails going out? I feel like I'm going crazy checking my emails every 5-10 minutes. Like this is taking a serious mental toll on me.

A recent Steam Controller update (possibly beta only update) added a second Bluetooth pairing slot, letting you pair two Bluetooth devices (just like how you can pair two pucks). To start the controller in the second Bluetooth slot, you turn the controller off, and then hold L1 + B + Steam to turn it back on (versus R1 + B + Steam for 1st BT slot, or R1/L1 + A + Steam for the two Puck slots).

That said, the main thing I wanted to talk about in this post is how happy I've been with my Steam Controller. I know it's been overshadowed by the Steam Machine/Steam Frame, and there's been supply issues/over priced, but it's been a really great controller for me. I find it fits my hands really well, and I've been playing my Steam Deck docked a lot more since getting it.

The magnetic puck for charging works great, it's been effortless to keep it fully charged between sessions. I've never really gotten to test the controller's supposedly great battery life because it's so convenient to charge. Having the track pass/gyro/back buttons has been great, I found myself missing them a lot when using other controllers. It's also great having a controller with track pads for times I need to reply to a steam message or type something in a game.

I haven't really used the grip sensors. I can imagine some uses for them in games where I want to use gyro without touching the thumbsticks/track pads, but realistically I haven't encountered a game where that applied. I could also imagine using them to pause a game when I set down my controller, but that's not really much of a need and I could imagine it backfiring. They're an interesting tech but less useful than the capacitive sticks imo.

A minor inconvenience is that the waking up the steam deck via the steam controller (through the puck) seems to only work if the steam deck was connected to the puck before going to sleep. To get around that, I've paired the controller to my deck via Bluetooth as well, so I can swap to Bluetooth to wake it up, and then swap back to using the puck for latency/etc.

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I had to add bunch of information to the post title, in order to make sure its about Steam Controller too. He goes through every feature and differences and shows pretty interesting facts too. This is not just about Gyro (but has a focus on this topic). I have both controllers, so this is an interesting comparison.

Video description (only relevant parts):

Which one is best for gyro? Steam Controller (2026) or the 8BitDo Ultimate 2? In this video, I share my results after comparing them head-to-head.

Chapters: 
Intro: 00:00
What do they have in common?: 02:15
Differences: 05:24
Conclusion: 09:28