That kim gun emoji is amazing

“What if individualism and idealism (the current superstructure) with communist societal organization (a future base)? How would this be sustainable?” They are right to be confused when they mash it together like that, but it’s not how societal changes happen and it’s one of the pivotal reasons that transition is such an important concept in ML. We know the current way of thinking and behaving will not change immediately. There is a process of getting there and AES states are living proof that it’s possible to make progress on it!

When I make these same arguments I'm usually bombarded either by "Chinese propaganda! They spy on their people, they have no privacy!" or "This is utopian thinking, humans will always fight in wars just like they did before, there will always be a society that is better than another and it will dominate them, it's human nature! Wee wee wee!"

The best that I can and others can do is to just educate, if they refuse then it's on them. A lot of people have their minds set on China, DPRK, USSR and won't change them.

Absolutely agree, it's however insanely difficult to do so (I still have a lot of individualism and egoism along with decades of social conditioning to overcome). It's doubly difficult to do so for other people around me, especially if they don't have an open mind or don't read theory/only read capitalist or imperialist core media.

The whole point of the period of socialist construction under the dictatorship of the proletariat is not just to create the material base for communism but also the human base

Another big issue I run into is that people don't feel like doing this because they will most likely never experience it themselves, so why bother if they will never live to see the day when communism wins. This is their thought process.

They are usually friends or family so I have a bit more patience with them, I also take it as a way to practice cool calm and collected debate as oppose to just straight up arguments. It is difficult though when they just don't want to listen or have an open mind.

Also it might come of that I am pulling these types of people out of thin air (had a post about a biologist and human nature), but I swear these are people that I talk to on a regular basis.

I would probably say petit bourgeousie and neoliberal ideas, which is pretty funny since she is a proletariat.

Oh and just to add, the absolute worse are administration staff not even the medical staff, those people are next level incompetent, rude, lack any empathy or respect.

I don't hate doctors/nurses/medical staff in general because I have seen extreme competence in the field, just like with any profession there are fuck ups worthy of gulags.

I've had family members being told they have 6 months to live because they have a cyst on their kidney and then through other means found out that it's just a kidney stone. To the reverse where they were going to public doctors for months because of leg pain and as soon as they pay a premium at a private clinic do they get a stage 4 bone cancer diagnosis. It's insane, truly insane. The fact that people's wellbeing is being exploited and ruined for profit.

I'm so sorry that you are going through this right now. You truly aren't alone, the system has completely let people down in most countries.

Do they think people just do not do things unless they wage or profit incentive?

Yes, in their opinion no one (or not very many people) would be incentivized to pick up garbage, deliver food or do thankless work without monetary compensation.

Honestly, pretty good answer.

This is probably the single most difficult thing for people to imagine, a different system to the one they are currently living in.