[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

ah hmmm, maybe I should've asked the context of the question directly 😅 (I'll also edit the main post with context). I was confused how the american working class relates to the means of production. so my setup is that in the context of imperialism, the production of people's needs mainly happens outside of america, and it seems that americans' primary source of wealth and well-being comes from those superprofits

so then americans as a whole seem to have power in maintaining this system, from protecting it via participating in the military, working in jobs that manage this imperial system (e.g. finance, defense, etc.), selecting the american candidates that pursue their favorite imperialist policies (i.e the policies that give them a larger share of the super profits). in turn, the domestic capitalists in america need the support of the americans, so they and the americans come to an agreement on how to divide the superprofits from the factories abroad among them

so, in the broader sense of imperialism, it seems to me that american capitalists and the group of average americans share ownership in the means of production, in a primary sense. but is there something wrong in this reasoning?

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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by rugarc@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

hi! I was discussing with a few different people about how the american working class relates to the means of production in the context of imperialism

so my setup is that in the context of imperialism, production of people’s needs mainly happens outside of america, and it seems that americans’ primary source of wealth and well-being comes from those superprofits

so then americans as a whole seem to have power in maintaining this system, from protecting it via participating in the military, working in jobs that manage this imperial system (e.g. finance, defense, etc.), selecting the american candidates that pursue their favorite imperialist policies (i.e the policies that give them a larger share of the super profits). in turn, the domestic capitalists in america need the support of the americans, so they and the americans come to an agreement on how to divide the superprofits from the factories abroad among them

so, in the broader sense of imperialism, it seems to me that american capitalists and the group of average americans share ownership in the means of production. what are everyone's thoughts?

(I edited the post to make the context clearer, originally I had asked an abstract question about ownership that didn't get at the imperialism context)

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I'm glad there's a lot communist content on YouTube which I feel can get marxist thought a lot of visibility, but for me the YouTube UI feels like it's sometimes constantly bombarding me to click on things or scroll to the comments and it's a bit distracting sometimes... I definitely prefer the far more focused experience of reading theory instead

but there are also a lot of realllly good first-hand video sources on YouTube, not necessarily breadtube, that can be super fun to watch. one that comes to mind is "An African-American's Journal Inside North Korea (1994)", even though not all of the thoughts voiced in it are explicitly marxist. that one made a pretty big impression on me when I watched it for the first time :D

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

this is really inspiring actually! I've been thinking about coming out irl to more people than just some very close friends, it's nice to hear someone else's experience since it's so nervewracking to think about while other aspects of my life are so busy... sometimes I'm like, maybe I shouldn't do this, is there any point, surely I can manage living as a guy towards the public for the rest of my life if I've already done it for so long. but then of course, every instance of gender euphoria keeps changing my opinion... :D

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yayyy hope you enjoy the read!

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks!! I'm finding it super comfy already, I'm really happy that the community is so welcoming, really heartwarming :D

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it's actually really crazy! I think the propaganda is also so strong because we have both people from the West AND India pro-Gandhi (or at least, I haven't heard anything like this about Gandhi from any of my relatives and stuff) so there's not many voices accurately painting India's history. But yeah, it's definitely crazy how the bourgeois admits to their intentions so often (like the example you mention), but the quotes never get the attention

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Haha, yeah I only found out about this VTuber from listening to music so I actually haven't watched many other VTubers as much as I should...

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Hi!!

Nagase Yuka wave emote (although oops I don't know if she has a wave emote... but she's a VTuber whose music is soo good)

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hi, thank you!! :D

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds good, good night!

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

LOLL I see, you certainly got me there...

[-] rugarc@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Hi, nice to meet you! :D I think your message might've accidentally cut off early

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Hi, I just joined lemmygrad! I've been lurking here for a while. About me uhhhh... I really like music, anime, and talking to people in general.

Also, the big reason I wanted to make an account today is because I wanted to recommend some books by Suniti Kumar Ghosh that I've been reading and really enjoying recently. I highly recommend "Naxalbari: Before and After" and "The Tragic Partition of Bengal", where you can learn things like how Gandhi was actually fascist and Gandhi's "non-violence" movement was actually a tool used by the British imperialists (and India's comprador bourgeoisie) to quell the rising anti-imperialist forces. (Suspiciously, Gandhi always seemed to be fine with violence whenever it was the imperialists doing it...)

One of my favorite parts about Ghosh is that they use so many quotes by members of the ruling class where the ruling class admits to their plans. It's literally evil villain reveals evil plan so it's basically irrefutable. Like Ghosh includes a quote by A. O. Hume literally explaining that the founding of the Indian National Congress was designed to "inoculate them ["the great lower middle classes"] with a mild and harmless form of political fever"... and there's so many quotes like this in the book from British officials and their puppets that make it blatantly clear how Indian "independence" in 1947 didn't liberate India at all.)

Anyways, my fangirling about Ghosh's works aside, I'm excited to be here and to get to know you all!! :)

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