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Sorry, I made the comment about being on Fuck AI because of your edit to the original message. I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything.

Back to the AI stuff. I am sorry if I am a little sceptical about your claims about the "next generation of AI" and how "soon" they will outperform humans when even after all these years, money and energy poured into them, they still manage to fuck up a simple division question. Good luck making any model that needs to be trained on data perfect at this point, because AI slop that has been already generated and released in to the internet has already took care of that. Maybe we will have AGI at some point, but I will believe that when I actually see it.

Finally, I don't know about modern art being absurdly simplistic. How can you look at modern animation or music and call it absurdly simplistic. How can you look at thousands of game UI designs in Edd Coates' website and call them absurdly simplistic? All AI will ever create when it comes to art is some soulless amalgamation of what it has seen before, it will kill all creativity, originalty and personality from art, but businessman in suits will gladly let it take over human artists because it is cheaper then hiring human artists and designers.

I would argue it wasn't just the refrigeration, but also the suburbanization of living and the cost effectiveness of delivering the milk from the farm to the store, which (in theory) made milk cheaper. You would still need the milkmen if stores and supermarkets didn't exist. In an alternative world where we didn't invent commercial / household refrigerators, you could still buy milk from stores daily without the need of a milkmen, becaue ultra-pasteurization exists.

I guess thats the problem with analogies and I don't think either of us will get anywhere by further arguing about this one specific example.

I think the fact that AI sucks ass at even the most basic math proves that the difference between discovery and creation is, indeed, not arbitrary.

Unless you are the kind of person to use AI to do math, then yeah I can see how it can look that way.

This may come as a shock to you, but nobody was working as a refrigerator. Refrigerators didn't replace the milk man, the stores did. Which was fine at first since those stores were supposed to buy the milk from the milkman and just make it more readily accessible. Then human greed took over, the stores or big name brands started to fuck over the milk man, and conspired with other big name stores to artificially increase the price of bread while blaming covid and inflation, and now some, although few people are trying to buy it back from the milk man if they can afford / access it.

Those tools that did replace humans, did not steal human work and effort, in order to train themselves. Those tools did not try to replace human creativity with some soulless steaming pile of slop.

You see, I believe open source, ethically trained AI models can exist and they can accomplish some amazing things, especially when it comes to making things accessible to people with disabilities for an example. But Edd Coates' is specifically talking about art, design and generative AI. So, maybe, don't come to a community called "Fuck AI", change the original argument and then expect people argue against you with a good will.

There is not a single drop in alternative currently unfortunately. I hope Revolt picks up some steam and figures out screen sharing, but more importantly, federation between self hosted instances, which is not even on their roadmap currently.

I hope to convince my group to use something like mumble + steam groups or something like that eventually especially now that Discord has ads, but for general use (such as public community servers) I think we are all doomed for many years to come.

Name a single better alternative, I will wait. Lmao man, Matrix can't even load TEXT messages if there are slightly too many (yeah sure, it will eventually load if you wait long enough I guess), and it doesnt even have voice chat (not voice calls mind you, I am not calling 20 fucking people to play games with them). Revolt does not have screen sharing, nor does it have hot swappable/ joinable servers if you self host. It had like a 4 month period where voice chat didn't even work.

The fact thay Discord, a software that historically targeted gamers at that point in time, was being used for remote classes tells you how shit everything else was / is in comparison.

Really? You don't see how a gamer centric software that put text and voice chat in a single solution, with the ability to join multiple servers and hot swtich between them on the fly, that let's you start private chats in a single click and keeps your entire history for all the channels and all the private chats that you have ever been part of, that has built in streaming and screen sharing capabilities without any additional configuration, became successful?

Nobody needs "performance" (whatever that means in this context) from Discord unless you need hundreds of people in a single voice channel. Its also stable AF.

Don't get me wrong, Discord is on a fast track to enshittification, but when it first came out, it made so many things so simple and accessible. There is still not a single solution that even comes close what you can do with Discord to this day.

The opposition comes from us, the consumers who refuse to use Google products.

Ohh nooo. Poor her with all the stock options she got while working there from basically their startup days. Whatever this poor damsel will do with 20+ years of experience working in one of the biggest tech companies in the world.

I might not have the platform to bring attention to this issue, but hey, at least I don't actively help them, do their work and then reap the benefits of all the evil they do anyways.

Unlike her, my issues with Google does not end with the Israel issue. Google is evil regardless of this single issue.

She is still working there. Yeah, sure, maybe she is taking a risk now that her name is out there publicly criticizing, but this article is just for her to feel good about herself. "But look guys, I think Google sucks too, I am not bad like them. I just help them accomplish their goals and get paid for it 🙃"

Bruh, who the fuck is being rejected "hundreds, if not thousands" times? Maybe some people are, but thats such a red flag that I would argue then maybe they should change their approach in the first place.

Maybe you are exaggerating (it just makes you sound a bit like an incel, apologies), and I probably would argue men do get rejected more then woman, because men are still (mostly) expected to make the first move, but like you don't need experience handling rejection to not have a violent rage fit.

Edit: I have read another one of your replies down the chain, and uh yeah you definitely do sound a lot like an incel.

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And how does average sales per release correlate to development costs? Your argument was "development costs are now higher so game prices should also increase", and now you are talking about average sales per release.

You might need some comprehension skills before offering other people tips.