[-] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Moravec's Paradox is actually more interesting than it appears. You don't have take his reasoning or Pinker's seriously but the observation is salient. Also the paradox gets stated in other ways by other scientists, it's a common theme.

One way I often think about it: in order for your to survive, the intelligence of moving in unknown spaces and managing numerous fuzzy energy systems is way more important to prioritize and master than like, the abstract conceptual spaces that are both not full of calories and are also cheaper to externalize anyways.

It's part of why I don't think there is a globally coherent heirarchy of intelligence, or potentially even general intelligence at all. Just, the distances and spaces that a thing occupies, and the competencies that define being in that space.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

He's so close to being depressed enough to maybe ask a vital and important question about meaning and his own relationships with technology. But probably he'll just buy more AI.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

You don't have to agree with someone to recognize that they care.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I'm ok with this, because I guarantee you ~~an accidental medium or copy failure~~ a crypto rug pull on their NFT will still get them in the end. Thanks for playing I guess.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

When it comes to cloning or copying, I always have to remind people: at least half of what you are today, is the environment of today. And your clone X time in the future won't and can't have that.

The same thing is likely for these models. Inflate them again 100 years in the future, and maybe they're interesting for inspecting as a historical artifact, but most certainly they wouldn't be used the same way as they had been here and how. It'd just, be something different.

Which would beg the question, why?

I feel like a subset of sci-fi and philosophical meandering really is just increasingly convoluted paths of trying to avoid or come to terms with death as a possibly necessary component of life.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah that's totally fair, I just was tailgating the sneer I guess.

Almost never do they find a solution in anything in the left side of politics.

That's a good point, and I think it speaks well to their savior complex. They want above all to push the guilt and discomfort of social issues away so they don't have to live in the discomfort of reality. Dogma does this, and it really doesn't matter if you have the veneer of science or the mythology.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Stranger things have happened. But in either case, we should commit to supporting every effort. If one punch doesn't work take another. Death by a million cuts.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Meta: is that his plan all along? Maybe a few well placed sneer is what you need to save America.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

The weird thing, is. From my perspective. Nearly every, weird, cringy, niche internet addiction I've ever seen or partaken in myself, has produced both two things: people who live through it and their perspective widens, and people who don't.

Like, I look back at my days of spending 2 days at a time binge playing World of Warcraft with a deep sense of cringe but also a smirk because I survived and I self regulated, and honestly. Made a couple of lifetime friends. Like whatever response we have to anime waifus, I hope we still recognize the humanity in being a thing that wants to be entertained or satisfied.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Oh absolutely! This is the entire delusion collapsing on itself.

Bro, if intelligence is, as the cult claims, fully contained self improvement, --you could never have mattered by definition--. If the system is closed, and you see the point of convergence up ahead... what does it even fucking matter?

This is why Pascal's wager defeats all forms of maximal utilitarianism. Again, if the system is closed around a set of known alternatives, then yes. It doesn't matter anymore. You don't even need intelligence to do this. You can do with sticks and stones by imagining away all the other things.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

At this point I’ve put a lot of points into “being right” and it hasn’t gotten anywhere. My most common experience when I write is that people latch onto things I said that weren’t my point

Let me introduce you to the biological source of creative confabulation! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_tie_(biology)

Complex systems that relate in robust manners do not do so by trying to be right, or even minimizing error, per say. It's about, economically confabulating between two distinct spaces!

The written form is usefully incapable of fully capturing the experience you put in (fan in), and usefully capable of producing unrelated and novel experiences of the audience (fan out).

Where possible, I focus my attention on being economical, and leaving control of the reaction out of it. Have fun. Don't take the work, the audience, or oneself, too seriously.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Wouldn't a truly dangerous nuclear warhead forklift itself? Oh my god... Is the singularity all of us merging with forklifts?

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