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As long as we keep pretending conservatism is a valid political ideology and not a dangerous mental disorder that should land you in treatment and on a watch list, no civilized society can be safe.

What he needs is something I can't say out loud if I don't want to get banned.

I love it that reich-wing lunatics are now eating their own. They suddenly think Andrew Tate is trans, ditto for that one cockwomble who shot protestors (Kyle something?), and now even Trump is a deep state operative.

Keep it up, conservatives. Maybe murder each other and not us LGBT+ folks for a change?

The Usenet post I linked to claims it's originally from the 1st quarter of 1990, but who knows if that's accurate or not. I actually can't find a good source for whether Stumpf is the original author or just the one who posted it to rec.humor.funny.reruns, but it's usually attributed to him at any rate.

But yeah, fairly ancient by internet standards. I remember first running into it in the 90's

Well, no. The originally German / Nazi tactic called Lügenpresse aka. "Lying Press" is more about just claiming that the press is lying – like how conservatives latched onto calling everything "fake news" after US Republicans and Trump started doing it after their bullshit was called out with that term.

The idea with the "firehose of falsehood", like the page I linked to explains, is to saturate media with so much high volume and continuous bullshit that people start to doubt whether it's even possible to know anything about objective reality in the first place. The point isn't to proclaim that the media is lying, but to simply lie so much that people start to think that all media is just lies. The tactic originated in Russia and has been in use since Soviet times and the internet has allowed them to take it to a completely new level.

And yes, Nazi-controlled media was obviously also full of total fabrications, but that doesn't mean that these two tactics are the same thing.

Known as the "firehose of falsehood"

They think they'll be tortured because that's what they do to others.

Fuck, that explains a lot

I'm definitely getting pickier as I get older. Back in my 20's I went through all the Dune books, including the ones written by Frank's son which are… well, even worse. Doubt I could do it now. Probably the same with Foundation too if I tried reading them again.

The fact that it won't run "AI" bullshit sounds like a positive

Cavemen generally didn't have alarm clocks

Exactly. Treating conservatives like adults is a losing game; they lie about everything, and refuting every lie that comes out of a conservative's mouth is wasted time. More often than not, everybody who's not a conservative can tell they're lying so fact-checking gives them no extra value, and conservatives will literally never read fact checks anyhow