▲ 1020 ▼ Donald Trump is now the oldest party nominee for president in US history (www.businessinsider.com) submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 130 comments fedilink hide all child comments At 78 years old, former President Donald Trump is now the oldest nominee running for president. Joe Biden, 81, dropped out of the race on Sunday and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, 59. If she becomes the Democratic nominee, Harris' age could be an advantage against Trump.
[+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 103 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (4 children) He said this in 2016: Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible. He was still elected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) I love these transcripts, they always sound like a conversation some rambling old man is having with his hospice nurse. Ok Mr. Trump, very good. Now take your medications. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago This article is seven years old now, but it sticks in my memory all the same: French translator Bérengère Viennot on the difficulties of trying to represent Trump's manner of speech in another language permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish to point out that he was in his early 70s at the time, generally a bit early for that level of impairment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) True, although if you watch him over the years, especially between 2016 and now, there's been a huge amount of noticeable cognitive decline. He forgot his own wife's name. He called her Mercedes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago "Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV." permalink fedilink source parent [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago It’s like an LLM is responding to a Markov chain with an LLM-generated Markov chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) IMO the more amazing thing is that he's since referenced his uncle multiple times as proof that he himself is smart. Like, aside from all the crazy rambling, he buys into eugenics to such an extent that he thinks his uncle being smart necessarily means that he is also smart. And, he assumes his audience will also believe that intelligence is a hereditary trait like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Apparently they do believe it. Either that or they just accept that he does and don't care. But I'd say believing in eugenics is more likely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tdawg@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago No, it's that they hear someone they understand. "He says it like it is," is white people speak for "his words aren't confusing me." Bc really all Don ever does is tell a story like a trailer park kid. It speaks to their biases and emotions and that's all they care about permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) I doubt most of them listen to him at all. They listen to Fox or Newsmax or whatever social media, who only cherrypick the fragments that sound vaguely coherent, and conversely only played the pieces of Biden's speeches that were incoherent. They either don't realize or don't care that they're not looking at the whole picture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I expect that they are hearing but not listening permalink fedilink source parent [–] limelight79@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* I actually laughed the first time I heard a Trump fan claim Biden was incoherent. I honestly thought they were kidding. Nope, dead serious. "Have you ever heard Trump talk?" Silence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (4 children) He said this in 2016: Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible. He was still elected. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) I love these transcripts, they always sound like a conversation some rambling old man is having with his hospice nurse. Ok Mr. Trump, very good. Now take your medications. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago This article is seven years old now, but it sticks in my memory all the same: French translator Bérengère Viennot on the difficulties of trying to represent Trump's manner of speech in another language permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish to point out that he was in his early 70s at the time, generally a bit early for that level of impairment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) True, although if you watch him over the years, especially between 2016 and now, there's been a huge amount of noticeable cognitive decline. He forgot his own wife's name. He called her Mercedes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago "Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV." permalink fedilink source parent [–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago It’s like an LLM is responding to a Markov chain with an LLM-generated Markov chain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) IMO the more amazing thing is that he's since referenced his uncle multiple times as proof that he himself is smart. Like, aside from all the crazy rambling, he buys into eugenics to such an extent that he thinks his uncle being smart necessarily means that he is also smart. And, he assumes his audience will also believe that intelligence is a hereditary trait like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Apparently they do believe it. Either that or they just accept that he does and don't care. But I'd say believing in eugenics is more likely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) I love these transcripts, they always sound like a conversation some rambling old man is having with his hospice nurse. Ok Mr. Trump, very good. Now take your medications. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago This article is seven years old now, but it sticks in my memory all the same: French translator Bérengère Viennot on the difficulties of trying to represent Trump's manner of speech in another language permalink fedilink source parent [–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish to point out that he was in his early 70s at the time, generally a bit early for that level of impairment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) True, although if you watch him over the years, especially between 2016 and now, there's been a huge amount of noticeable cognitive decline. He forgot his own wife's name. He called her Mercedes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago This article is seven years old now, but it sticks in my memory all the same: French translator Bérengère Viennot on the difficulties of trying to represent Trump's manner of speech in another language permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) I wish to point out that he was in his early 70s at the time, generally a bit early for that level of impairment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) True, although if you watch him over the years, especially between 2016 and now, there's been a huge amount of noticeable cognitive decline. He forgot his own wife's name. He called her Mercedes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) True, although if you watch him over the years, especially between 2016 and now, there's been a huge amount of noticeable cognitive decline. He forgot his own wife's name. He called her Mercedes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) True, although if you watch him over the years, especially between 2016 and now, there's been a huge amount of noticeable cognitive decline. He forgot his own wife's name. He called her Mercedes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago "Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago "Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] don@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago It’s like an LLM is responding to a Markov chain with an LLM-generated Markov chain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) IMO the more amazing thing is that he's since referenced his uncle multiple times as proof that he himself is smart. Like, aside from all the crazy rambling, he buys into eugenics to such an extent that he thinks his uncle being smart necessarily means that he is also smart. And, he assumes his audience will also believe that intelligence is a hereditary trait like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Apparently they do believe it. Either that or they just accept that he does and don't care. But I'd say believing in eugenics is more likely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Apparently they do believe it. Either that or they just accept that he does and don't care. But I'd say believing in eugenics is more likely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago No, it's that they hear someone they understand. "He says it like it is," is white people speak for "his words aren't confusing me." Bc really all Don ever does is tell a story like a trailer park kid. It speaks to their biases and emotions and that's all they care about permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) I doubt most of them listen to him at all. They listen to Fox or Newsmax or whatever social media, who only cherrypick the fragments that sound vaguely coherent, and conversely only played the pieces of Biden's speeches that were incoherent. They either don't realize or don't care that they're not looking at the whole picture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago I expect that they are hearing but not listening permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* I actually laughed the first time I heard a Trump fan claim Biden was incoherent. I honestly thought they were kidding. Nope, dead serious. "Have you ever heard Trump talk?" Silence. permalink fedilink source parent