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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

nah, you will attract only those that already kinda agree. All the others will see weirdos with weird ideas, weird clothing and weird vocabulary, approaching them in the street or promoting events that they don't care about.

"talking to people" is something I do since I'm in union organizing and the way people react to the same arguments varies wildly over time. After the waves of layoffs in the tech sector, non-politicized tech workers are incredibly more receptive to pro-union rhetoric, in a way that would have been impossible before.

About accelerationism: I'm not saying failing an election is a necessary step in a teleological sense. You should enter elections to win them, if you do it. Nonetheless it is useful to radicalize people. It is a recuperation of what is perceived as a defeat in a system in order to feed a different system. Electoral betrayal is useful, but not necessarily something you should strive for, as an armchair accelerationist would claim. There are better ways to spend your time and energy imho, but if it happens, it is still good manure for growing the seeds of something new.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago

leftist might be a bit derogatory, but it's not really an insult, come on.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The mistake of this logic is to believe that this betrayal of electoral logic won't radicalize people. It is a necessary step. There are now 11 Million French people, many of which probably don't believe much in electoralism but vote anyway, who are furious at what's happening.

People don't change their mind listening to arguments, they change their mind living experiences. The experience of joy after winning, followed by the disregard of democratic logic by Macron, will mobilize an insane amount of popular energy, contrary to snarky "electoralism doesn't work" comments that are relatable only to a microscopic niche of edgy, maximalist leftists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I'm not American and I don't even vote. Get off the internet and touch grass pls.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Quitting the for-profit sector for political and moral reasons. Not easy and it's still a struggle, but I keep going.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You two, get a room

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you're wondering, no Appflowy cannot be used to replace Notion. It's in their claim but you would have a pretty bad time doing it. Anytype might one day get there, Appflowy is another thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Bonfire, with its direct support for OpenScience features, would be a better alternative

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Union organizing should be done across departments. Anyway software developers are doing a lot of organizing and unionizing, exactly because they have more secure positions. AWU, Kickstarter, NYT, Grindr, and many others are almost entirely office workers, many of which are software developers. Software developers are tech workers: drawing lines doesn't help anybody and historically has always been to the detriment of the workers movement. Software developers start organizing when they stop being software developers and become tech workers.

Also FYI: I've been a software developer for a decade and I mostly organize software developers that, if anything, are overrepresented in "tech workers" spaces, to the point where we have to put rules like "don't talk about git, it scares the workers" to prevent the spaces to become cliquey.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

What do you mean? The USA has a lot of momentum and a lot of tech companies are unionizing, many more than anywhere else. It's on mainstream newspapers every other day

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'm a union organizer in tech. I'm Italian, but I live in Germany and I do interact a lot with American organizers.

In Germany, most organizing is effectively cleansed of political identity and needs to be conducted in a very sanitized environment to be appealing to workers. It's also very very focused on the legal aspects.

Americans are way more technical about the whole of it: more methodologies, more processes, more tools, it's a game of numbers.

Italians..., well, let's say the unions there deserve the hate. Not because they are particularly corrupted or conservative (which they are), but because they have no fucking clue what they are doing. They are much slower than their foreign counterparts, they have no resources, they have very little coordination and no interest in getting better. Like many things in Italy, they are slowly sinking in the quicksand. The organizers on the ground they are often under prepared and they have no concept of methodology: they know their legal stuff, but they believe that building momentum in the workplace is just a matter of identifying the right arguments and deliver the right speech at the worker assemblies. Basically they rely on luck, workers motivation and 50 years old processes. They also have no operational coordination on a regional or national level. People from the same union working on the same category don't know or talk to each other unless they work in the same physical office.

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