it's also the new tab in many tools

In most tools, it opens a new tab.

Indeed what you're describing is a recurring argument by people like Cockshot or the INDEP network for the fact that we already have the technology to plan the economy, it's just captured (mostly) by private corporations. The work of Gianmarco Cristofari instead explores the early examples of states beginning to own these technologies

Electric eels

If you believe food comes from a field, you will defend the field. If you believe the food comes from the supermarket, you will defend the supermarket.

yeah, we know that the conditions on which these practices developed don't exist anymore, the context keep shifting and anything that is conceptually stable for more than a decade probably is unfit to create the change we need.

the decision of what's possible or impossible shoudln't be done through ideological discourse but through empirical practice. Ideologies are not tools for strategic development and they should stop being treated as such.

It's an artifact of political debate done within the bubble of people who read too much theory or engage in discussions only with other political people. People who do politics and organizing in the real world are not so concerned about all these ideological nuances or asserting the value of one model over another.

If you don't have the power to change things, all these abstracts models are useless and uninteresting. Discussing how to build power in the real world is a much better way to spend your political energy.

Avoid any group that begins their political reflection with a goal (like revolution), and join those that begin from a need. Do the same, and paths will appear.

start.coop

Fondazione PICO

Enspiral

platformcoops.de is not an incubator per se, but it has a similar function

startup cooperatives incubators are a thing.

online larpers performing opinion politics rather than active politics hate nuance. It's pointless to argue with them. Just let them rot in their forgotten corner of the internet. There's a future out there to win.