I think a lot of people don't see it that way. E.g. there are many working class people across America who support Trump.
Maybe they could vote for the Democrats if the Democrats can earn more blue-collar credentials, and if they can paint the Republicans as the party of the rich. Perhaps the GOP is the party of the rich, but they now also have supporters who aren't rich at all.
Surely it's true that in order for a party to win an election it has to persuade centrist voters, undecided voters, registered independents, etc. An average person who isn't too invested in politics.
So you decided to hate me and the entire country I'm from based on the actions of a single person?
All western countries have right-wing elements and many of those elements in different countries have rioted or protested. In any case I still think it's true that a party has to appeal to enough centrists (e.g. independent voters) to win an election.
About the same number of people voted for Trump in the last two elections (about 74 million people) while the Democrat vote went down from 81 million to 69 million. So maybe some people around the political centre (independent voters, etc) felt Harris wasn't compelling enough.
I dunno really I'm just guessing. The Democrats will probably have a lot of data and exit polls telling them which demographics they need to do better with.
Fair enough. I mean I would definitely say it's true that Starmer has moved rightwards since he was elected as Labour leader, but I guess I would consider him now being somewhere in the centre. People on the right would say he's far-left I bet. "Two-tier Keir" and all that.
Maybe in some countries they wouldn't refer to Labour as centre-left, but I think the majority of Brits would agree with Labour being called centre-left.
Starmer would probably like to introduce more left-wing policies, like when he said a couple of years ago that he wanted to abolish university tuition fees, but Corbyn's election losses seemed to lead Starmer to believe that he needed to be more centrist in order to successfully replace the Tories.
Anyway I think most people in Britain and around the world would refer to Labour as a centre-left party even if they disagree with Labour's policies.
The reason I think Labour are centre-left is because I think most people would think of them that way. I'm not trying to defend them or anything like that, I didn't even vote this year. I just think that's how most people would refer to them.
Maybe left and right are relative terms and Labour are centre-left within the context of British politics... but maybe this is the wrong community for me to say things like that.
I think in any country you have to appeal to undecided voters in the centre in order to win an election. So yes maybe the Dems shouldn't appeal to "the right" but they probably need to appeal to the centre.
On [email protected] they've been suggesting that Harris went too far to the right to try to capture moderate Republicans, and that's why she lost, but yes I think this OP image makes sense.
Arguably though you could say it's not as simple as left/right. Maybe the Democrats should look at which specific demographics they did badly with, and then figure out how to better appeal to those demographics.