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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Keir won because the UK, like the US, has First Pass The Post and the Even More Far Right Party - Reform - divided the votes on the Far Right hence the Tories came second in lots of electoral circles were they usually come first.

Also I've lived all over Europe including the UK and New Labour is plain Right, not Center-Right - they only seem center by comparison with the Tories who migrated to the Far-Right during the Leave Referendum and subsequent Johnson Government.

Similarly by comparison with most of Europe (not the UK) the US is a country with only a plain Right (maybe even hard) and a Far-Right.

Curiously, both New Labour and the Democrat Party support the ethno-Fascist regime in Israel, something which I feel neatly underlines my point as from what I see elsewhere in Europe (with the notable exception of Germany) no Leftwing party supports them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Maybe left and right are relative terms and Labour are centre-left within the context of British politics... but maybe this is the wrong community for me to say things like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Labour are centre-left within the context of British politics

Nothing left about them, Keith made pretty damn sure of it. The fact that you (and sadly many others) think they are though, is simply a demonstration of how the Overton gets shifted to the right by the establishment protecting its own interests, since they are who parliament actually serve.

maybe this is the wrong community for me to say things like that.

Pro tip: the community you post in doesn't change reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The reason I think Labour are centre-left is because I think most people would think of them that way. I'm not trying to defend them or anything like that, I didn't even vote this year. I just think that's how most people would refer to them.

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