the decibels a bit for hearing protection reasons

I mean, I've heard that from groups trying to pass laws to get rid of the tax stamp, but in all honesty everyone I've known who has a suppressor only has one because they think they are cool.

I mean you still have to wear hearing protection with them, especially if you're at a range where the vast majority of people aren't using a suppressor.

So your argument is that the government won’t follow the law, but soldiers will?

Is your reading comprehension okay? My point is that there is no real separation between the military and government. The military is led by the executive branch which ultimately hands out orders. The legality of those orders is not determined by the military, it's determined by the judiciary branch. If the judiciary determines an order as legal, then the military has no choice but to execute the order.

Which means...... The court system, which have been captured by the heritage foundation determines the legality of military borders.

You don’t know many people in the military.

Lol, my dad retired as a chief. I spent the first 16 years of my life growing up on military bases.

You’re missing the part where the non-loyal German soldiers would face harsh consequences, including execution, for failing to follow orders.

I already addressed that..... American soldiers can also face harsh consequences for refusing "legal" orders. The legality of orders are determined by a military court which has a long history of being extremely biased toward protecting commanding officers.

visited the foothills once

Again, projecting....

Yeah. That's what i said. I didn't say we would stay healthy, i said they couldn't starve the people without going hungry themselves.

Lol, shifting the goal post ....your original claim was that people in certain areas would be fine living off the land if the government theoretically cut off the food supply. You then shifted the argument to the government cannot shut off the food supply. You then went into some weird delusional fantasy that Californians would rise up and take down aircraft carriers with missiles.

Yeah they own stuff. But i buy my groceries from these peoples' families, and they arent all cool with this.

Aren't cool with isn't the same as willing to indulge your weird ass fantasy land where they become freedom fighters.

Yes some people are willing to do violence to preserve their rights, but most people are just trying to live their lives and fly under the radar. Which is why history is filled with tragedy and injustice.

But you just kind of ignored everything i said so you could say something technically true and put it where a response to me would go.

What part did I ignore? You brought up incorrect facts about the CCP and the Black Panthers, which I addressed accurately.

I just think you like to speak before you think. We're not in a romantic novel, life is hard and the good guys don't always win. I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just trying to temper your optimism with the reality of what happens to the vast majority of revolutionary forces.

Don't get me started

You were the one who brought it up?

So i got you?

So you don't know what projection is?

Look at a map. Talk to the people in all the places you'd have to go through. Maybe if they let this die down, and start it with something other than a police action. But if this goes hot? From fed cops? No. The sierra-nevadas may as well be in afghanistan.

I used to live in the Western foothills of the valley..... it's mostly empty rolling hills dude.

The logistics of getting food to stores is complex and it really wouldn't take much but some instability to cause major food insecurity in the majority of the country.

True, it wont be universal. I'm even seeing people in OC upset about this though, and if the admin's lost them, they've lost every major foothold with californians. Maybe downtown palo alto, for about five minutes. Maybe san diego, if they skew the demographics with a few aircraft carriers-but theres not much food between there, mexico, and the mountains.

I think you are overestimating the amount of people who would transition from being upset to taking up arms against the government. Most people barely pay attention to politics.

You don't even know what a maoist 'people's war' even is, and that's likely the doctrine they'll start with. You certainly don't know who the panthers were, or the kinds of people they were. You don't know what or where you're talking about.

Lol, the CCP were fighting with much more than just small arms. They and the kmt were both supplied by the US and the Soviets against the Japanese.

You certainly don't know who the panthers were, or the kinds of people they were. You don't know what or where you're talking about.

The Black Panthers never went to war with a military..... Fred Hampton was murdered by regular cops with pistols shotguns and rifles.

Just because I don't buy into your delusion that all of California is going to rise up and defeat aircraft carriers with som Glock and some semi auto rifles, doesn't mean I don't know about leftist revolutions.

Chuds can't and wont do real work. Not in numbers, anyway.

Chuds already manage the farms and ranches in Cali.

Notoriously productive resilient and efficient with their military resources: Slave States!

Yes, because there's no historical evidence of militant police states being able to feed themselves......

You play too many fucking map view strategy games. Go outside, maybe read a book. Or at least play the more complicated map games.

Lol, dude. You are projecting.... You sound exactly like all the come and take it right winged chuds who thinks they're going to turn into Rambo over night.

Well, it is a rather multilayered phrase. And sarcasm is present there too. And yes, I really think that most of the US citizens are racists.

Most white people are racist.....including the majority of Europeans. Just ask your average European about the Romani people and you'll get to hear some "interesting" opinions.

(I suppose this is exactly the case: the "woke" US citizen mumbling some racist shit while being sure that he is being super anti-racist).

Pointing out that international media has biases when it comes to ethnicity is not racist. Claiming that racism is not a problem in Europe, or that European news is devoid of racial biases is racist.

Always glad to know .....and I'm guessing here, that a white dude from one of the most privileged places in the world still think of themselves as the authority when it comes to defining racism.... It's reassuring that some things will never change.