TemutheeChallahmet

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What do you think of the uptick in younger black people "stanning" Trump because they promote him in spaces like hip-hop podcasts?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

I think any idea that the average Hexbear user thinks of as oversaturated is probably all new to a general audience.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This "pro-labor" Republican stuff has no constituency, that is why it got a muted response. They like unions for the aesthetic of the rough trade guy, but in real life union workers could be engineers, nurses, bellhops, etc. What Hawley is selling is 50s newsreel Americana, though this shit might not work this time around because too many people for which that registered as nostalgia have died.

The only people that this right wing pro labor crap works really well on is credulous economically left media people like Lee Fang and Red Scare, who are on board with unions but are uncomfortable with the left's lack of racism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This is a classic. I have no idea what the hell they were going for the entire time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I mean he and the liberals are many bad reactionary things but are almost certainly pro-librarian

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (4 children)

One of the ineptitudes of Biden that let this movement of psychotic illiterates get as far as it did is his fucking incoherence and disengagement from current day politics make him incapable of wielding the bully pulpit and swarming these movements with negative press. Any younger lucid Dem governor could have done at least done THIS, and JB Pritzker already did.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is a psychotic idea, literally running away from facing the reality of how little enthusiasm the base has for your candidate

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean there's ton of grifting in the industry but there are two kinds of messaging, the kind that consolidates your existing adherents and the kind that gets the neutral politically uninvolved people to listen. The reason Amerifats hate public transport and slavishly promote deregulation--to the point of even saying universal device charging port requirements are government overreach--is because insanely effective propaganda ghouls workshopped and had a strategy for disseminating to people who initially didn't have a strong opinion one way or the other.

Israel itself was previously so skilled at propaganda targeting Americans who had little knowledge about the mid-east that the average left-wing view on the Levant even about 7 years ago was "there are two equally bad aggressors." During the War on Terror era Israel would make these stories and news dramatizations about pretty white women getting blown up in clubs, and astroturf the online New Atheists with anti-Muslim rhetoric, and people left and right took it as gospel that Israel was our secular and unfairly besieged sympatico country in the Middle East. These were no make-work jobs, even tens of millions in PR fees for this work paid for themselves in spades, because it facilitated decades of unprotested billion-dollar weapons exchanges.

Even though today's Israeli propaganda is dogshit because of the nepo incompetent descendants of the hasbara masters, and misspend of excess funds you mention, and even though it's now mostly effective only on rousing their existing supporters, for decades skilled torrential PR was what made us turn a blind eye to how horrific the IDF and Israeli government were. The grifting opportunities in PR came to the field because the past value it brought to people in power justified millions in cash influxes.

And to your point about the message needing people in a place to hear them, there is an untapped group of people who know the Dems are cowards who don't do enough but don't feel like they can criticize them too harshly, the overperformance of Bernie proved that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes but what do you believe pulling them entails

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes and we either shitpost as doomers or as agitators

 

I am on the precipice of one and don't want that to turn me into a disengaged normies, lib, or chud. I know that a local DSA chapter was financially backed by a person of incredible means, so I wonder what keeps such people left wing or at least SocDem.

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