The others in the household weren’t up to watching yesterday so I expect to get a rewatch with them very soon.

I suspect there are more layers in there that will hit during rewatches.

For example, what’s with the black Borg cube-shaped home of the Makers?

The Makers stated that she would retain both sets of memories.

Not sure how that would work but she’s not an organic being. Perhaps her original memories would have been encoded and available for access as she matured.

Confident is the word that comes to mind after watching this premiere.

The world building and character development foundations of season one pay off immediately. I felt like I was watching a contender the strongest science fiction season premiere of the year.

Like many others, I hadn’t been sure where the mystery box of season one was taking us. Everything had seemed to be coming together in the first season’s final episodes, leaving me with a some frustration that we might not see where it would go if there wasn’t a second season.

Now, the narrative, action and character beats were all there as well as the monsters, MUTOs/kaiju/Titans — old and new.

Some deep cuts in there to rarely seen smaller monsters from what I could catch. The Skull Island and Hollow Earth scenes really give a richer sense of a broader ecology of monsters. The consistently excellent vfx make it unquestionably believable.

WOW.

10/10. No notes.

In my view, perhaps the strongest episode yet.

Just goes to show that YMMV remains a truism.

I wonder why the old TOS fans like me are less impatient with fundamentals of human existence being presented through the growth of young adults?

Sincerely, resilience in the face of trauma is something many 30 and 40 year olds struggle with. I didn’t see this as sophomoric at all.

So, I wonder why episodes like this aren’t landing as well for folks 20 or even 30 years younger than I…

That Protostar looks great.

Really glad that Prodigy is belatedly getting some ship releases.

I’m much more excited about this episode than I had been.

And it helps settle some of the context of the first post-burn Academy class vs the fist at the reopened San Francisco location.

Say Monsterverse is the branding, but the community is not just for the current era.

We’re being inclusive but understand the distinctions that longtime fans make between eras, referring to them at times as different ‘franchises’ due to licensing arrangements. Appreciate the point and were trying to finesse the confusion in terminology.

No negativity to Shin or the broader Reiwa era intended.

We went with Monsterverse as the current continuity of the broader one of Toho creatures that started with Godzilla (1954). Hope this doesn’t offend or confuse.

Most fandoms don’t consider eras with separate creative control and licensing or separate continuities as being entirely different ‘franchises’, and it can be a barrier to newcomers.

If we’d gone with the name Godzilla might be a barrier to newcomers who might not understand that when we talk about the Godzilla fandom it’s about Godzilla’s entire universe not just the greatest of the kaiju.

At this point, with 12 years, Monsterverse is the longest running Godzilla continuity, other than earliest Showa. It’s the one that’s raising profile, and drawing in new fans but we don’t want to limit conversation to just the Legendary pictures continuity even if it has a very intuitive name for the continuity.

My own experience of the franchise up to recently was mainly Showa, and some Hesei, as I shared these with a family member. So it’s a personal interest to have this community include those.

Very appreciative to have those with knowledge of the Millennium and Reiwa eras, as well as the American films weigh in as I’m personally filling in the gaps of my own viewing.

Hope this is an explanation you can be comfortable with.

Thanks for posting about a movie in the broader Toho-verse.

We went with the Monsterverse name for this community the Legendary pictures brand is becoming more widely known and is attracting new audiences worldwide. However, the intent is for this community to be a place to discuss everything in the entire 70+ years since Godzilla (1954).

My own knowledge is of the 60s and 70s films and the newest ones, so I really appreciate the expertise of those who know the late 1990s to 2019 films.

Given how offensive many Star Trek ‘fans’ were towards Mary’s weight, especially in the later seasons of Discovery, I have mixed feelings about seeing her choosing to go so far in her weight loss journey.

The increasing use of what was originally medication for diabetes management for obesity and general weight loss is a reality, especially for women in Hollywood.

On one hand the use of these acknowledges that maintaining healthy weights is not just a matter of self control and that behavioural weight loss approaches are largely unsuccessful and unsustainable for more than small losses.

On the other hand, it seems to be giving in to the stigmatization that Mary and others have been subjected to and that Discovery and Star Trek generally were trying to counter.

The thing is, for Darem, his family and his people, this might be a high stakes situation.

It’s a change in leadership model, with a young new monarch. It should have more weight — especially as we and Jay-Den learn that they have some advanced Ionian-level portal technology. So, they seem the legacy of an advanced species with a highly structured society.

But the feel of the event was more like a resort destination wedding than a constitutional event.

The Khionians clearly a society hiding behind masks, and Darem excels at that.

BUT in the end, Darem’s long time betrothed expresses betrayal that Darem had been wearing a kind of mask with her, never showing his true self.

So, she sees only the ultimatum of an abdication an annulment as a solution.

Being creative and allowing Darem to continue with Starfleet so he could grow and become more comfortable and confident in his own identity, was beyond her ability to imagine.

Those of us who were on the old social media boards of the day recall the outright hostility against a woman as a captain as the principal character of a show.

The number and toxicity of rants about ‘political correctness’ was extreme if less generally known outside fandom.

Personally, I loved the technobabble in Voyager — it conveys the process of engineering and science more authentically than in any other show in the franchise. At a certain level, it’s more important to have a realistic applied science and engineering process in a Star Trek show than to be restricted to what’s currently known in science or that can be extrapolated from limited current knowledge.

Voyager gave us nerds nerding out. What made it exceptional was not only was it two women with STEM expertise, but that they were enthusiastically supporting one another rather than competing.

We saw some of that positivity and STEM process with Geordie and Data in TNG, but Voyager gave us a captain who was an engineer who moved to command track. Janeway’s uncompromising work the problem dammit ethos is all engineer, and it made her the right temperament for the scenario of a ship lost in another quadrant.

Thanks for the catch! It’s M:LOM.

Clearly posted too late yesterday.

Fortunately, Lemmy makes it easy to edit posts.