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Video Description:

Dave Grusch is a former 14-year high ranking intelligence officer who left government in early '23 to blow the whistle on UFO’s. In 2019, he was tasked by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and Pentagon to investigate UFO’s as part of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Task Force (or UAPTF). In that context, he slowly started to uncover a covert UFO reverse engineering program being concealed from the civilian government. In June of '23, he outed himself to the public. In July of '23, he testified before Congress. We sat down for hours and talked about the entire history of UFO's, UFO and Atomic secrecy, Presidents and their relationships to UFO's and the insane world of Anti-Gravity research.


12:00 onwards - Grusch outlines that leakers are under penalty of imprisonment and execution.

16:50 onward “non human Biologics” he stated in an interview previously they’re pilots and he doesn’t know what their actual job was. They were “nonhuman intelligence” pilots.

18:00 onward he was cleared by the Pentagon to talk about this.

19:00 onward Grusch insinuates that the initial reasoning for hiding the information was the ontological shock it would cause in society due to society’s religiousness at the time, along with concealing the information from adversaries like Russia.

20:40 onward - the officials involved in the Manhattan Project also created the laws related to obfuscation and secrecy of the topic. 21:28 - retrieved UAP materials that give off radiation are classified under the Atomic Energy Act (intentionally).

23:00 onward - there was a deeper classified project (related to the Manhattan Project) studying UFOs aside from Project Blue Book

28:00 onward- Grusch states that it’s hard to tell how far ahead their (the nonhuman intelligence) technology is. “It’s hard to state how far in advance it is. You’re just assuming some sort of linear progression. They’ve made an asymptotal leap that put them over the edge. They’re similarly as advanced as us but they’ve had an asymmetric evolution they went a different path than us. While we’ve made nuclear weapons, they’ve made a propulsion discovery but they’re not that much more advanced than you and I”.

29:50- Grusch states that once we unlocked nuclear power we made major technological strides. We may be one discovery away from manipulating spacetime.

30:29- the UFOs are interested in our nuclear technology.

36:00 onward - Grusch references Lue Elizondo’s comment on the ETs studying us and it’s possible the UFO crashes were intentionally seeded to test humanity’s development in relation to being exposed to this technology.

42:00 onwards - there may have been scientific breakthroughs that were hidden from the public.

44:00 - Dr Hal Puthoff of the Pentagon insinuates that antigravity research did get somewhere (made progress) and then was hidden.

47:00 onward - UFO metamaterials are discussed.

59:50- the connection of the “UFO Disclosure” movement (and intentional disinformation) to the “elite” is described by the host.

1:04:00 onwards - there’s a long history of “UFO debunkers” being directly linked to government organizations that have actually studied UAP.

1:17:28- this portion is interesting since it references information that Elizondo and Dr Garry Nolan have stated.

For background, Elizondo (Pentagon), Dr. Garry Nolan (accomplished academic who was approached by the CIA to study UAPs, also stated they told him information regarding the beings operating the crafts), and John Ramirez [CIA- was referenced as having worked there separately by Jim Semivan of the CIA, referenced in this article (https://www.benzinga.com/amp/content/34082411) have all stated, in summary, that members within the defense establishment believe these beings are bioengineered AI.

Grusch notably references this at this time stamp as a possibility to what these beings are. If you notice, he goes out of his way to reference specifically what Elizondo had stated in a past interview, that the ETs are designed to look humanoid to interact with humans. (In Elizondo’s interview, he brought up an example of how zookeepers in China disguise themselves as pandas to interact with the pandas, and what we are seeing is a similar situation).

1:19:30- ETs being our descendants from the future is discussed. The host describes this as being a possible reason for the ET non-interventionism. As in, they don’t want to harm the timeline too much such that their own existence is nullified. (My note: it would be interesting if some of what people have witnessed is in fact humans from the future that have mastered ET propulsion and time travel technology, which is why they only appear fleetingly in some instances and choose not to intervene in major events).

1:27:00 onward - military sensory systems disproportionately detect UFOs since their collection mechanisms are more advanced than what’s available to the average person.

1:32:30 onward - Grusch details how being on the Autism spectrum have shaped his interactions.

Grusch background (wiki): David Charles Grusch is a decorated Afghanistan combat veteran and former Air Force intelligence officer[1] who worked in the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO).[2][3][4][5] From 2019 to 2021, he was the representative of the NRO to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force.[3][4][6] From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the co-lead for UAP analysis at the NGA and its representative to the task force.[2] He assisted in drafting the National Defense Authorization Act of 2023,[7] which includes provisions for reporting of UFOs, including whistleblower protections and exemptions to non-disclosure orders and agreements.[8][9][10] Congressional interest in UFO sightings immediately prior to Grusch's public claims surrounded questions about the four objects that the Air Force shot down in February 2023.[11]

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TL;DR - Please remain civil and follow the community rules listed in the sidebar.


UAP Community,

I hope this message finds you well. As our community continues to expand, we will undoubtedly attract individuals from diverse backgrounds and experiences. UAP and The Phenomenon as a whole have been associated with a myriad of sightings and encounters.

Whether you deem this as mere nonsense, believe in it wholeheartedly, or are just here to gain a deeper understanding, I urge everyone to maintain civility. It's perfectly acceptable to downvote or disagree while providing your reasoning. However, derogatory statements lacking substance will no longer be tolerated. From this point onwards, such remarks will be deleted, and the responsible user will be warned. Lemmy logs any actions taken by mods for the sake of transparency.

To the ardent believers and those who've experienced these phenomena firsthand, I want to ensure you feel safe and encouraged to share your stories. I also ask for your patience and a willingness to seek common ground with our more skeptical members. Conversely, I urge the skeptics among us to approach this topic with an open mind and humility.

Before offering commentary, I recommend investing some time in researching classic UAP cases—our sidebar offers valuable resources. I personally recommend the excellent post An Extensive Collection of Compelling Evidence and My Rational Defense of the Existence of UAP by user GONADS125. It becomes evident who has genuinely delved into the subject and who has merely skimmed it. Most skeptics who've taken the time to research may still desire further evidence or data, while those unfamiliar with the topic often resort to derogatory comments or dismissive gestures.

This distinction will become even more pronounced when discussions veer into more controversial or 'woo' territories. If you're unsure what I mean, you might need to acquaint yourself more with the subject matter.

Apologies for the lengthy message; I'll conclude now. Remember, we are all members of the human family. We've gathered in this community driven by a shared curiosity about the nature of our existence and our role within the cosmos. I welcome each one of you, regardless of your beliefs or backgrounds. Please, enter this community with an open heart and mind and leave your ego and any preconceptions at the door. Whether there's a mundane explanation for UAP, or the reality is more mystifying than we can comprehend, our collective quest for understanding continues.

Thank you all for your time and understanding. Please reach out if you have any questions or concerns.

SignullGone

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A more accurate title for this post could be: "English-Based UFO Reporting Organizations Primarily Receive Reports from, Unsurprisingly, English-Speaking Countries."

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I could be wrong, but I don't believe Speaker McCarthy will offer much resistance to this request. What are your thoughts?

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Personally, I am noticing a change, albeit measured, in the coverage and seriousness given to this topic.

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Join us over at [email protected]

We are a community for civil discourse related to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. Share your sightings, experiences, news, and investigations. Everyone is welcome here, from believers to skeptics and everything in between.

We migrated today from [email protected], which has over 500 subscribers. We are the most active community in the Lemmyverse when it comes to discussing the topic of UAP.

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Bill Nelson, the Director of NASA, recently made an announcement while in Argentina. He stated that a report on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, which was prepared by a group of scientists from NASA, is scheduled to be released next month.

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Subject

Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency


Date

July 26, 2023


Time

10:00 AM EST


Place

2154 Rayburn


Witnesses

Ryan Graves - Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace -Opening Statement

Ret. Commander David Fravor - Former Commanding Officer, Black Aces Squadron, U.S. Navy - Opening Statement

David Grusch - Former National Reconnaissance Officer Representative, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Task Force, Department of Defense - Opening Statement


Relevant videos


Key Takeaways - Credit to reddit user LosRoboris

  • IRAD abuse - defence contractors misappropriating funds with govt collusion. Mention of “self-funding”
  • Grusch has spent 11 hours with both intel committees
  • US govt / contractors have craft and non-human biologics
  • US govt / contractors have intimidated, hurt, and potentially murdered would-be whistleblowers
  • Individuals in charge of classification (access to information) are both senior executive officials in both military / dod and defence contractors - unelected officials
  • Satellite imagery of crashes, tests, retrievals exists
  • US govt / contractors could have advanced tech that has been made from reverse engineer efforts
  • Grusch and his wife were intimidated in a disturbing way
  • Grusch knows people who have seen the non-human biologics
  • Grusch has seen photos and documents
  • Gaetz saw footage of orb UAP
  • Grusch saw footage of shootdown and said craft was otherworldly
  • It’s potential for this to also be inter-dimensional - mention of holographic principle
  • People will get fired or have pay cut if they don’t get access to a SCIF for next hearing
  • People have been injured working on ufo legacy reverse engineering programs and pontentially hurt by NHI
  • Grusch will tell congress everything classified they would like to know in a SCIF
  • Grusch will give AOC list of involved individuals directly after the hearing
  • According to Grusch, statement made by Dr. Fitzpatrick of aaro that there is no evidence of extraterrestrial visitation or objects defying known science are innacurate - Grusch was under oath, Fitzpatrick was not
  • When asked about communication with nhi, grusch stated he can only talk about this in a classified setting
  • Boeing allegedly engaged in incident involving red cube size of football field
  • Grusch cannot confirm or deny dept of energy involvement
  • Alleged intimidation of commercial pilot witnesses by commercial aviation companies
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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act of 2023


TIMELINE


By 45 Days Out From Enactment of Uap Disclosure Act of 2023

  • A standard record form/method for reporting specific to this act, created by the Archivist of the United States is made available to all Gov’t offices
  • The President receives nominee recommendations for the Review Board from the majority and minority leaders of the senate; the speaker of the house and minority leader of the house; the Secretary of Defense; the National Academy of Sciences; The UAP Disclosure Foundation; The American Historical Association; and other persons and organizations the President considers appropriate
  • The President appoints one nominee to the position of Executive Director of the Review Board (counts as one of the 9)

60 Days Out

  • The Archivist begins the establishment of the “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Records Collection” in the National Archives

90 Days Out

  • The President makes nominations to the Review Board

90-180 Days Out

Review Board Confirmation Hearings

  • To be held by the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate within 30 Days after the first date Senate is in session following the nomination of at least 3 individuals (including the E.D.) for appointment to the Review Board

Committee Voting

  • Within 14 Days after the first date Senate is in session following the confirmation hearings, the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate will vote on the nominations and report results to the full Senate

Senate Votes to Confirm or Reject Each Nominee

  • Within 14 days after the first date Senate is in session after receiving the report from the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

180 Days Out

  • Review Board begins its work

300 Days Out

  • Entities with UAP-related records must have everything collected and submitted to the Review Board

September 30th, 2030

  • Review Board Termination Date (Unless Extended by Congress)

Review Board


9 American Citizens

Must include at least one individual from each of the following sectors:

  • National Security Official (Current or Former)
  • Foreign Service Official (Current or Former)
  • Scientist or Engineer
  • Economist
  • Professional Historian
  • Sociologist

Qualities Sought:

  • Impartial Citizens with no current or previous experience with UAP-related program
  • Distinguished persons of high national professional reputation in their respective fields capable of exercising the independent and objective judgement necessary to the fulfillment of the role

RECORD SUBMISSION AND PUBLIC ACCESS


After transmission to the Archives, non-postponed records will be available to the public…

  • Physically (at the National Archives) Within 30 days
  • Digitally via the National Archives online database within 180 days

Precedence will be given to:

  • Records not already in the public domain
  • Records that clearly and unambiguously relate to UAP
  • Records that are the subject of litigation under section 552 of Title 5, United States Code
  • Earliest/most historical records

Postponement of Disclosure for Specific Records:

Every record must be fully disclosed after 25 years from the date of submission UNLESS the President signs off on a longer postponement for that specific record because disclosure would cause an “identifiable harm” that outweighs the public interest in disclosure

Must provide an unclassified written description for the reason for continued postponement of a record

*Must provide “clear and convincing evidence” that disclosure of a particular record would… *

  • Present a threat of such gravity to military, defense, or foreign relations, that it outweighs the public interest in disclosure
  • Compromise the identity of an intelligence agent requiring protection
  • Give away an important intelligence source or method that is currently used, or is reasonably expected to be used in the future by the Government for “intelligence activities”
  • Impair the national security of the United States
  • Reveal the identity of a living informant to the Government who would be at risk if their identity was known
  • “reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, and that invasion of privacy is so substantial that it outweighs the public interest”
  • Compromise a confidentiality agreement between a government agent and a cooperating individual or foreign government to such a harmful degree that it outweighs the public interest

In cases where the Review Board approves postponement it is urged to work with the originating source of the record to provide for the disclosure of “segregable parts, substitutes, or summaries”

“Public Interest” is defined as:

“The compelling interest in the prompt public disclosure of unidentified anomalous phenomena records for historical and Governmental purposes and for the purpose of fully informing the people of the United States about the history of the Federal Government’s knowledge and involvement surrounding unidentified anomalous phenomena.”


QUESTIONS…


What are the “exemptions under the Atomic Energy Act of 26 1954” mentioned in Section 2 as part of the reason some records have not yet been declassified?

What is section 552 of Title 5, United States Code, and what “litigation” relating to this section of the code pertains/could pertain to UAP?

What is the UAP Disclosure Foundation?

Who is the Archivist of the United States?

What are the rules and regulations governing, and authorities granted to the National Archives and Records Administration?

Will the Review Board confirmation hearings be public?

Who is on these committees?

  • Select Committee on Intelligence of the Senate
  • Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
  • Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives
  • Committee on Oversight and Accountability of the House of Representatives

Credit to reddit user Coltsfoot_Finds

If there is anything that needs to be changed or added, please let me know.

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The original article from The Debrief:


Video Interviews


News Media


Relevant Articles & Tweets


Credit to reddit user ZolotoG0ld for compiling this information. This is meant to be a quick reference guide for new users who are now following this topic after David Grusch came forward. Please comment below if there is anything that should be added to this list.

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