The mycelial network is strong with this one
Live long and prosper, Stamets 🖖
I'm so sick of the Zionism that some of these mods exhibit (mostly .world or .de from my experience)
Did you watch the video or just react to the title?
This is absolutely a fracture within the MAGA base and pundits
It's an emancipatory slogan.
Now you're repeatedly refusing to engage with the sources because you know they prove you wrong
It's saying 'Palestine will be free.'
You're the one falsely attributing that as "all this land will be ours" while also falsely implying that 'ours' would exclude Jewish people. You're the one falsely conflating anti-zionism with antisemitism.
Again, actually taking the sources seriously clarifies all of this.
It's calling for control of all the land "from the river to the sea". Which means murder or displacement of the other side
No, it's pretty clear. It means an end to Apartheid and equal rights. That means equal rights for everyone. Right of return across all of historic Palestine. That means coexistence. Not mass killings and mass displacement like what is currently happening
It's a One-state reality already. Like with South Africa, ending the Apartheid did not mean the murder or mass displacement of the white settlers. That mentality of mass murder and mass displacement is entirely the projection of the sick supremacist mindset of settler colonialists.
And the Israelis use it to mean the same thing, which is something a Zionist would never tell you.
Zionists have had zero issues calling for the complete expulsion of Palestinians. That's been the case from the origins of Zionism to present day.
The difference here is that Israel has the power to genocide and is actually committing genocide. That doesn't make anyone else calling for genocide okay. There is no good side in this fight.
The Palestinian slogan is, once again, not a call for genocide. You have five articles to learn more, why don't you take them seriously?
You still gonna call me a Zionist? Anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%?
Just stop repeating Zionist misinformation, it's not that difficult, especially when provided sources.
This seems perfect for the trade offer meme
Edit: my amateur attempt
It is an emancipatory slogan that calls for an end to apartheid and for equal rights.
Yousef Munayyer, head of the Palestine-Israel program at the Arab Center Washington D.C., has written extensively about the meaning of the slogan before and since Hamas's attacks on Oct. 7, which led to Israel's current bombardment of the Gaza Strip.
"It's an expression of Palestinian nationalism and it's an expression of a demand for Palestinian freedom or self-determination," said Waxman. "I think Palestinian self-determination need not come at the expense of Jewish self-determination. Nor do I think Palestinian freedom has to be considered a threat to Jewish rights."
Simply put, the majority of Palestinians who use this phrase do so because they believe that, in 10 short words, it sums up their personal ties, their national rights and their vision for the land they call Palestine. And while attempts to police the slogan’s use may come from a place of genuine concern, there is a risk that tarring the slogan as antisemitic – and therefore beyond the pale – taps into a longer history of attempts to silence Palestinian voices.
The use of the phrase “from the river to the sea” has come under particular scrutiny in the last three months. When Palestinians, or anyone on the left, has used the phrase to demand a free Palestine—as in the popular chant, “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”—those on the right have disingenuously argued that it is calling for the death of all Jewish people in Israel.
In 2021, the Palestinian-American writer Yousef Munayyer argued that those who saw genocidal ambition in the phrase, or indeed an unambiguous desire for the destruction of Israel, did so due to their own Islamophobia.
It was instead, he argued, merely a way to express a desire for a state in which “Palestinians can live in their homeland as free and equal citizens, neither dominated by others nor dominating them”.
Preventing any possibility of a Palestinian state has always been Israel’s policy, one that the settlement building in the Occupied Territories is meant to ensure. This policy has been intensified under Benjamin Netanyahu, who in January 2024 publicly vowed to resist any attempt to create a Palestinian state and to maintain Israeli control from the river to the sea.
It is often maintained that the slogan ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’ expresses a genocidal and antisemitic intention. But this is generally not the case. On the contrary, the slogan has historically been used to articulate a wide variety of political strategies for Palestinian liberation
Denying such demands seems as self-evident to most Israeli Jews as the air they breathe. It is this denial that has led to the dehumanization of Palestinians and has culminated in the genocidal mood that is prevailing in Israeli Jewish society today and in the assault taking place now in Gaza. This should be viewed as the real problem and not the legitimate chant of ‘from the river to the sea: Palestine will be free’.
We look forward to the following:
1- To initiate, collectively and in agreement, urgent measures aimed at halting the war of extermination in Gaza, with rescuing the victims and preventing the continuation of the bloodshed as a top priority, by forming an Arab-international coalition to stop the extermination, which will pressure the occupation and its supporters using all possible tools to halt the war of extermination.
2- Using all Arab pressure cards, including activating the Joint Defense Agreement, using oil as a weapon, imposing comprehensive Arab sanctions on the occupying state, and urgent action with the international community to impose severe sanctions on the Israeli entity to compel it to immediately halt its war of genocide and lift the unjust siege on the Gaza Strip.
Providing urgent humanitarian aid to our besieged people in the Gaza Strip, particularly to hospitals, medical clinics, civil defense, and internally displaced persons within the Strip, securing tents and prefabricated homes, and establishing a reconstruction fund.
Unifying the Arab and Islamic stance in confronting the ongoing Israeli aggression against our nation, and agreeing on a joint action plan that includes a set of Arab-Islamic sanctions against the occupying state and the countries, entities, and companies that support and partner with it, including severing all forms of relations with this usurping entity that not only threatens, but also blatantly attacks a large number of countries and peoples in the region, brazenly threatens their national security, and acts as a rogue terrorist state that does not abide by the law.
Adopting a unified strategy to protect Jerusalem from Judaization, Al-Aqsa Mosque from division, and the West Bank from annexation, displacement, and uprooting.
Strengthening Arab and Islamic solidarity to consolidate unity and ensure that the nation's major issues are not left to be subjected to Israeli massacres and attacks, amidst talk of the so-called "Greater Israel" dream, which aims to control Arab lands and dominate and control the region.
Modi is also a huge fascist and idolizes Zionism, this is unfortunately not too surprising
Well put. Addresses the systemic violence that led to this shooting while connecting it how the violent rhetoric and actions of American foreign policy have contributed to this current climate, especially post 9/11 with the rampant islamphobia
Zionism has always been a fascist / neonazi ideology
Hasan reacts to friend of the show, Adam Friedland, who invited the NY Democratic Congressman, Ritchie Torres, who has received over $1.4 mil from AIPAC, onto his show to talk about Israel
The PA is Counter Insurgency, an arm of the Israeli Apartheid apparatus. Still sounds they only care about how that negatively affects Israel