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And yet the party that runs exactly contrary to all those issues just won the election... Polls are great and all, but polling the general population and polling likely voters and exit polls are all very different things lmfao.

Coming back to add that these are polls of democrats for the most part, which only make up 30% of the voting population.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

Sometimes, the people that do this shit for a living (not me, but the so called popularity experts you have such disdain for) know more about this than non-experts, just as physicists tend to know more about physics than a rando off the street.

"The nazis coming to power means the autobahn gets expanded, german manufacturing booms, the anti-semites get their way, etc."

"Allowing the rich and powerful to get around copyright is good, actually, because it means copyright MAY someday go away"

One of the greatest songwriters of all time

random lemmite: "he's shit"

"If they just had my opinions (that are unpopular to the US population at large), they would win."

No. You're clearly highly uneducated on American politics or just trolling.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Gaza was not the biggest issue among gen z voters and while there is a chance that young men didn't vote for Kamala because of that, it's much more likely it was general disdain for the democratic candidate. 14 million voters can't be explained by gen z in any way shape or form anyway, considering the number of gen z voters that did show up. Why am I here? Because it's fun to use lemmy and have discussions about politics.

Michigan going red is not a big deal. This is an almost exact repeat of trumps 2016 electoral victory yet you're acting like he's treading new ground entirely lmfao. Yes, even if Harris got PA she wouldn't have won, but after PA was lost, literally nothing else mattered. There was exactly zero chance she won without PA whereas she actually had a path to victory without Michigan. I personally live in PA and I can tell you that I know exactly zero democrats that didn't vote because of Gaza. Fun fact about that too: I was literally going door to door doing political canvassing, and what I can tell you, overwhelmingly, is that anybody whose top issue was Gaza was easily convinced that Harris is the better choice, whereas tons of men my age (older gen z) were intending to vote Trump because of the economy and inflation, and though he is completely indefensible economically, these were the significantly harder group to convince. If you want to go bring me some numbers as to why you're right feel free, but so far ALL anecdotal and empirical evidence that I've seen shows Gaza not to have been a big issue this election.

Uh? Yeah they were. Not the nazis, but the racists. They were all in the Democratic Party before the Nixon switch.

Did you even read my comment? Gen z split along gender lines, especially the Latino and white vote, as seen above. It was a big issue for gen z, but clearly, given the demographics of voters and exit poll answers, Gaza had very little to do with the outcome of this election. Please go fucking read about what happened in the election before making more arguments in which you have no idea what you're talking about. Like, fuck, just read about it before commenting.

Because first past the post voting is a form of democracy, whether or not either of us have qualms with it. What is not democratic, in any way, shape, or form, is disrupting the peaceful transfer of power, which Trump has literally done, not to mention the intended destruction of the federal system under project 2025, which based on your response, I can tell you've done no research into.

Are the parties both bad? Sure. Is one objectively and provably better for the democratic institutions of the US? Abso-fucking-lutely.

In their own words, "facts don't care about your feelings".

Ok, but like at the end of the day, Michigan didn't fucking matter... it was over the minute Trump won PA . Besides that, look at the demographics and how they voted. Young people, those most likely to care about the Gazan genocide, split the vote by gender for Trump and Kamala. Specifically young white and Latino men overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Is that supposed to indicate that caring about the genocide in Gaza, something Trump has repeatedly talked about amping up, is something that the vast majority of the voting populace cared about? No. Kamala got 14 million less votes than Biden did in 2020, and I'm tired of this same gaza, black woman, etc spiel. It can't be chalked up to these things alone. The democrats ran an appointed candidate that never would have won a primary on her own, and got the consequences of that.

The blame is not on Biden, nor is it on Harris for not caring about Gaza. The blame lies squarely on democratic party for not figuring out a plan sooner, and the 14 million voters that appeared 4 years ago when it was trendy, but not now when the threat is most grim. Not to mention the fact that not voting for Kamala when her opponent has not only stated that he will allow Israel to continue, but will actually ramp up their genocide is just fucking stupidity, no two ways about it. Just as we tell Trump voters not to vote with their feelings and to listen to rational arguments, we must tell left-leaning voters the same.