There is something kinda cathartic about seeing these people funnel their money to the single stupidest and most insecure man alive, like a capitalist version of the god emperor from WH, just sucking the life out of all these people so he can seig heil on national television. At least no one with real material problems is participating in this.

I have no idea how to evaluate this, how serious are these people about this shit? Surely the empire just stealing land directly from the people who ostensibly benefit from its rule would provoke backlash?

Counterpoint: Yoon appears to be backing down, the ceasefire is already fraying, SAA is recapturing territory already, Trump is nominating a bunch of neocons.

Nothing ever happens gang, cautiously optimistic?

I swear the process is designed to discipline labor. It's a weird hazing ritual we've normalized as part of making a living so you feel indebted to whoever hires you for ending the madness.

Yeah I think global platforms showing the genocide have been a massive problem for libs. It's hard to feel morally superior to someone while you're defending the people mutilating children on a post showing the mutilated kids. It starts to puncture the illusion of being the reasonable good guy when you're telling people to ignore the bodies.

Yeah it seems like maybe real experience with us is changing opinion more broadly. I was expecting a dogpile.

Yeah there's a commenter pointing that out in the thread and laughing at how bad the OP was at having a discussion

Well he's in a bind honestly, going by the people I know that profess to like Trump. They want imaginary stupid things that can't be said out loud without being obviously stupid or contradictory.

Like, he wants to run as anti-war, and also oppose a cease fire in Gaza? He wants credit for Afghanistan but not to accept that losing a war means an embarrassing retreat. He wants to support the Jan 6th people but also not get yelled at for being supportive of overthrowing the government. He's gonna end the war in Ukraine before he even comes in, but the terms Putin is asking for are unacceptable?

You have to keep banging on about immigrants because if you get concrete about anything else someone might notice that it makes no fucking sense.

Still love the truck though!

Good. They're afraid and have no counterargument. Scare them Comrade.

"Round here we call it Shapiroing"

In my experience alt right folks are pretty anti China, to the point where that is often the reason they oppose the Ukraine war, as it is dividing the attention of the Christian west from the rising, menacing Tigers that threaten white society.

Hexbears are often skeptical of Adrian Zenz who is usually the source of claims about China. Most that I've seen acknowledge that there are camps (China openly says it is running programs to deradicalize separatists and fundamentalists in the region), but disagree that they are as bad as western media depicts them, and would probably argue that western nations are concern trolling about the issue regardless because it is easy to question whether American foreign policy is motivated by concern for Muslims. Genuinely curious, who is an alt-right guy who doesn't think there are camps in Xinjiang? I've never encountered a pro-Chinese reactionary.

As to Korea I thought MAGA types just memed about Kim Jong Un because Trump sort of got along with him. Hexbears think that the Korean War was bad and that Korea is acting predictably given that a nuclear power is constantly threatening them with annihilation. There are a variety of positions in Hexbear on the DPRK though, and I can't really account for all of them, but I think they arise out of a genuine anti-imperial and anti-war sentiment, and a healthy doze of skepticism of western narratives of a state enemy. I don't think you could say that for the alt right.