If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] 143 points 3 years ago (24 children)

So I was just looking through literature.cafe a bit, and came across this excellent comment chain by Janvier. It outlines the history and culture of Hexbear, and makes a very solid argument for defederating them.

TL;DR- Don't defederate Hexbear because they're a bunch of genocide-apologist authoritarians. Defederate them because they're annoying, and will burn out your moderators.

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  • [–] 54 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Personally I think it’s an extremely toxic community that represents the worst of the internet. They’re extremely set in their ways and provide no meaningful content or discussions on the platform. That’s totally fine for them but they can do whatever they want in their own safe space.

    I would prefer them to be defederated mostly because I can’t block an entire instance.

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    [–] 118 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Hexbear recently federated with sh.itjust.works, I don't know if it was polled on your side or what. But on Hexbear's side there was a thread to discuss it.

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  • [–] 111 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Fuck the tankies over at Hexbear

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    [–] 97 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Sucks for you guys. They caused nothing but trouble when they were still federated with Blahaj.

    After so many of us complained about how they were being dicks and many on the instance weren't feeling comfortable, hexbear decided to defederate from us first since they somehow said it wasn't safe for their LGBT members to be on it.

    Funny enough a few days later a new account started posting across different lemmy instances for days about how the Blahaj instance was anti trans and that the admin was too. Our Admin is openly trans :/

    The whole argument started because the user said everything had to be political and wouldn't stop insulting others who said they didn't want to have every post on Blahaj to turn political.

    It was just too perfect timing how a few days after hexbear defedarated for somehow saying the pro LGBT instance was anti-LGBT, that we got a brand new account attacking trans members while sayin they were anti-trans.

    Enjoy your new people.

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    [+] 94 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (83 children)
  • [–] 54 points 3 years ago

    Hey thanks for the input! I'd like to say that we users on hexbear can get rude or rowdy and that can seem jarring to some people. I understand how that crassness can be off-putting.

    To those people I'd encourage that they take a step back and observe what that rudeness comes in response to. To me many of you are just as rude, if not much more. I've yet to see hexbears mistreat anyone that disagrees in good faith. It's a website with a low tolerance for debatebros and smuglords, so if you behave in that way, yes you will be treated with derision.
    In other words: What goes around comes around.
    To the users that feel offended I ask you this: Do you not think civility is a two-way street? If you initiate discussion with a smug gotcha, why do you feel you deserve to be met with anything but the same attitude? If your response to a well-thought out post is "smh Kremlin propaganda", why do you feel as though you deserve to be treated with respect?
    I disagree with plenty of hexbear users on many issues, yet it has never been an issue. To me it is you that have a hostile site culture. It is nigh impossible to just ask a question or dissent. Asking for sources to claims gets me nothing or at the very best a link to Wikipedia after hounding one of you for ANYTHING that can move a discussion forward in good faith.

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    [–] 82 points 3 years ago (81 children)

    I don't mind the general hexbear ideology in itself. Sure. You do you.

    But, damn, I see more than a few of its members just being obnoxious.

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    [–] 62 points 3 years ago (33 children)
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    [–] 59 points 3 years ago* (8 children)

    They added us to their whitelist.

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    [–] 57 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Yes and its very very annoying.

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    [–] 56 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    Opinion of one of the admins regarding hexbear, just so you guys know where they stand:

    In my view, the hexbear community is actually a positive force on this platform. They are frequently abrasive, but they ultimately have the potential to contribute to what we are building here. They are extremely active and some of them are quite intelligent. But they've also become accustomed to a privileged position on their own walled-in platform, and they need to be reminded that their views are considered ver extreme by the average person.

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