As soon as the Zionist supremacists infiltrated and subverted this specific fight against Racial Discriminations, it was always going to turn into yelling at each other since their "arguments" don't work in the logical plane so they have to move the discussion to the emotional place, were they can use things such as Fear to really rally the masses whilst avoiding getting people thinking about it.

It's not by chance that they keep pulling out events from the Holocaust, 80 years ago, (and, worse, even whilst they themselves are committing a new Holocaust) to stoke Fear in some and Guilt in others, so that they indirectly get support thanks to the "criticizing Israel is anti-semitism" link they themselves created.

In all this, out comes a lemmy.world mod (a place which has a History of supporting Zionist Israel) using censorship and accusing somebody of being "Against the Race" when they dispute the balance between harm caused by anti-semitism and resources demanded to fight it in light of far more harmful and widespread forms of Racial Discrimination getting way less attention, EXACTLY as supremacists do (for example, the KKK when their claims of "attacks on Whites" are challenged, almost invariably end up accusing those critics of being "against Whites").

All this said, and to more directly address your point in your post, my objective with bring all this here was to raise awareness to such techniques and ideally get more people to come at things from a Humanist viewpoint of harm reduction to people rather than going along with the Racist viewpoint that it's races being harmed and that different judgment and treatment should be given to people of different races (even if the entry form into the Racist viewpoint is often a Racism disguised as "benevolent" - i.e. favoring specific races rather than disfavoring specific races).

Every person I convert to Humanism is one less person that falls into the trap of "benevolent" Racism (and either on the path to malevolent Racism, or easily manipulated by malevolent Racists) and this then gets reflected in the real World outside.

Humanists too fight against Discrimination (more broadly, against unjust treatment of people, especially harming them), only it's anchored in Principles about Natural Justice, and looking at and treating everybody who was born into an ethnic group (through no choice of theirs) the same, either better or worse than otherwise, isn't Just.

I agree, the way I put it and without the rest of the context it doesn't translate well the point I was trying to make, and even though I tried to clear my viewpoint in later paragraphs (especially the one about Humanism), it was either badly done, not read by most people or too late to change the idea they made in the previous paragraphs.

Still, from that to it being "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole” as stated by the mod is a huge, huge leap.

My whole point is built as follows:

• Racial discrimination hurts people and is felt very personally by those victimized, as human beings not as "members of a race". It's the aggressors, not the victims, who see it as an attack on a race (in their twisted minds they're "fighting a race" and their victims have been dehumanized to nothing more than "members of a race").
• So adopting the "it's all about races" point of view on racial discrimination is adopting the aggressor's perspective.
• If you don't adopt that viewpoint, then racial discrimination is seen as human beings being treated unjustly and even made to suffer and killed by other human beings who use race as an excuse. That doesn't mean racial discrimination doesn't exist, it just puts it in context as the irrational motives of the aggressors. From that viewpoint the "alarm" and "urgency in addressing" cases of racial discrimination is based on harm caused and how often to the victims, not on what the aggressors think and hence not on the race of the victims.
• So for me looking at it from this later - Humanitarian - perspective, the amount of attention and alarm (as reflected by the constant use of the word "anti-semitism") to racial discrimination specifically against the Jewish People is insanely disproportionate to the present day damage caused by that specific form of racial discrimination compared to racial discrimination against other ethnicities which is barely talked about (in Europe the most shocking example being Romaphobia), a situation which cannot be logically explained by "hurt minimization" (since there the greatest alarm would be about the greatest harm, not which ethnicity is targeted) and hence the only logical explanation left for such behavior is Racial Preference, aka Racial Discrimination, aka Racism.

Absolutely, of this was the 1940s from a Humanitarian perspective it would make total sense that anti-semitism would be the kind of racial discrimination that people should be most alarmed about and fight the hardest against, because that was the one causing the most harm.

80 years later, in the 2020s, anti-semitism is far from one of the top most harmful forms of racial discrimination and hence the disproportionate alarm about it we see in the Press in many countries and even often here, is either artificial for propaganda purposes and/or based on many people holding Racial Preferences (often whilst thinking of themselves as anti-Racists) and hence reacting differently to the various kinds of racial discrimination, purely based on the targeted race rather than on any considerations about the harm being done.

It's in this - pardon my French - pile of shit of widespread Racist perspectives even in the very core of the fight against Racism, that we end up with situations of people claiming "anti-semitism" when somebody criticizes the ethnic Genocide being committed by Israel in Gaza when the worst (when measured by actual harm caused) form of racial discrimination in the present day in the World is probably that of the majority of the Israeli population against Palestinians.

MACO!

Ah, good old New Labour, siding with the modern day Nazis committing their very own Holocaust in Gaza.

The UK is almost as fucked up as the US.

(Though, judging by the march of 600k people against the Genocide, most Brits are not, and it's the power and money elites that, as usual, can't stop themselves from loving the most violent Fascism and Fascists same as when a young princess Elizabeth was being taught by her uncle and then King how to do a Nazi salute - the whole ubermenschen vs untermenshen view of the World seems to have massive appeal amongst British elites).

Protests are successful in places like France because they carry with them the implicit threat that the elites will sonner or later have their heads separated from their shoulders if they don't address the concerns of the rest of the population.

Meanwhile in the US there is not even the risk of the economic damage of a General Strike, much less of the physical integrity of those who actually control how the country is managed.

Several million Americans walking around in their own time holding boards decrying the current puppet of the elites ain't going to scare the elites into letting go of some of their power.

The murder by a single individual of a Healthcare Insurance company CEO had more concrete impact than this march of millions of Americans ever will.

What's really shocking is that a woman detained in the US for not having ID wasn't delivered to ICE immediatelly and deported to El Salvador without due process.

I mean, the whole point of not having due process is that if a person can't right then and there prove they're not an illegal immigrant they can just treat that person as an illegal immigrant and "dissapear" that person for it with no recourse.

The pettyness of all this shit is what's really shocking...

We don't live in a Meritocracy, not even close.

You're pushing the atoms on your end, which in turn push the next atoms, which push the next ones and so on up to the atoms at the end of the rod which push the hand of your friend on the moon.

As it so happens the way the atoms push each other is electromagnetism, in other words sending photons (same thing light is made of) to each other but these photons are not at visible wavelengths so you don't see them as light.

So pushing the rod is just sending a wave down the rod of atoms pushing each other with the gaps between atoms being bridged using photons, so it will never be faster than the speed at which photons can travel in vacuum (it's actually slower because part of the movement of that wave is not the lightspeed-travelling photons bridging the gaps between atoms but the actual atoms moving and atoms have mass so they cannot travel as fast as the speed of light).

In normal day to day life the rods are far too short for us to notice the delay between the pushing the rod on one end and the rod pushing something on the other end.

So, a real group of Jewish Leaders rather than a Zionist sockpuppet like the ADL.

Slavery is alive and well in the United States Of America.

(As a side note it's funny how, with a century of delay, the US pretty much followed the UK in making slavery "illegal" by just making chattel slavery illegal and, not long after, replacing it with indentured servitude. The non "funny" side is that Britain has already dropped indentured servitude but the US is busy actually expanding their variant of it with things like 3-strikes legislation)

Well, at least Israel made the sure the Hospital was a Terrorist Base, it's just that they did it after they took over rather than before.