you're saying that as if it's a bad thing! especially as long as they just develop and stay out of pushing certain content, then I couldn't care less. now if they were tankies on the other hand, that I would mind!
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This. It's one things to disagree politically. It's another to think violence is an acceptable means of conveying that belief.
Their memes community is now full of post about how it's ok to kill capitalists and other hatefull bullshit and no admin seems to care. Also their comics community is now just spam of extremly hateful comics from one of the admins.
They are the same in my book
Also water is wet. The devs' political views are not important to me, the software they make is more important. "Separate the art from the artist."
True they start telling you how China is doing wonders for its people.
I disagree politicly with many people on reddit. I don't care if you disagree but it does bother me when they are following a dead idolology.
I also don't like lemmy.ml being as big as it is. We need to seperate the power of development from the power of administration
Also the devs expressed support for people creating more mainstream liberal instances. That's the reason why there are recommended instances at Join-Lemmy.
That seems bad for the ecosystem as a whole.
If your point is that they're pro-CCP, you'll probably get your point across better by calling them "tankies" than "communists." I identify as a communist, but I'd be first in line to say "fuck tankies."
Ok, what in the world is the eli5 version of a tankie?
Stalin and Mao were good actually, the CCP has never done a bad thing ever, and Russia should roll over Europe with their invincible tanks, because the west is bad, therefore anyone who disagrees with the west is flawless.
That may be an uncharitable exaggeration, but surprisingly not by very much.
Oh dear lol
Originally, a "tankie" was a Stalin apologist, but in more modern times, it's come to mean just authoritarian communist. I don't think it's a self-applied term. More a derisive term used by anti-authoritarian leftists.
The anti-authoritarian communists tend to call themsleves anarchists, anarcho-communists, anarcho-syndicalists, left libertarians, etc. And they'd strongly tend not to have anything good to say about Stalin, Mao, or the CCP.
(There are right-wingers who call themselves "anarchists" or "anarcho-capitalists" or "voluntarists" or "minarchists" or "Libertarians" (note the capital "L") or whatever, but they have pretty much nothing to do with the hard-left-wing anarchist movement that they appropriated the terms "anarchist" and "libertarian" from.)
Ok, just don't kill people in reeducation camps
So far every website owner I've had issues with has been a billionaire capitalist, I'll give the communists a shot.
Good. We need more communists representing their ideas in open forums. I’d be more concerned if they were capitalists. That’s just Reddit 2.0.
That's terrifying
I mean... Open source and federation are the perfect representation of the ideas of communism...
Um not really
So are the devs. Actually, they're the same people. And you wanna know something else, they also run lemmygrad.
So how is this relevant at all, I fail to see.
Seriously?
Yes
This meme, again?!
I do not understand the argument. Are you implying that being communist automatically pins you in the pro CCP?
My country is socialist. My family is socialist. All my friends are socialists. I love socialism.
By following the same logic, does that mean that I am considered a Nazis lover?
No but many of the lemmy.ml founders embrace communism without evening considering how many people have been killed under that banner.
When I first heard about the communism I assumed that the were just far left socialists. It turns out they straight up worship communist leader
What banner? Are you under the impression that communism is some kind of monolith? If you're referring to the soviet union say that, or China, or whoever else you're specifically accusing of mass murder. The term communism refers to hundreds of different political ideologies and many different countries. Many of whom have next to nothing to do with each other.
And almost all of them have killed millions
I'm going to sound like a broken record but can you specify who you are talking about?
Anti west propaganda
How is asking you to be specific with your arguments "anti west propaganda"?
I'm mostly referring to the moderation of lemmy.ml only promoting pro communist ideas. They actively remove all noncommunist content
And all the communists in this thread arguing with you hate the regimes that have killed millions (including the ones that have embraced the term "communist" like the CCP and Stalin's USSR) as much as you do.
Its kind of funny
Over 26 million people from ex Soviet states were killed in world war 2 fighting facism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union
Exactly my point
Sometimes the best tech people are weird as hell. This might be one of those cases.
Although I did hear that they censor content critical of china, which sucks.
censor content critical of China
This is exactly my point. China is authoritarian and has commited war crimes against people who it doesnt't like. It also arrests journalists as enemies of the state.
I'm not saying the west is completely perfect but China is much worse
Anti-authoritarian communism is a thing. I think mostly the issue folks here in this thread are taking with you is equating communism with authoritarianism. And I don't think anyone in this thread is pro-China or defending censoring content critical of China. Quite the opposite in fact.
But communism doesn't work. All countries that implement communism have restrictions on free speech to hide the fact that it is a broken system.
The reason communism doesn't work is because people have no incentives to work. You can complain about the evils of the corporate empires but they at least have a motivation to improve even if that is sometimes at the expense of the people
I've lived in a communist country before. It's not really an issue for me.
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Thank fuck! I love communists
just a quick thought on up/down votes on the OPs post.
my personal take... just because I think the content of a post is inflammatory or outright wrong, does not mean it deserves an insta-downvote.
every post and thread is a chance to share constructive dialogue. if the thread goes off the rails, I hand out downvotes liberally. If it is actually informative or interesting, I hand out upvotes - even if I disagree with a particular argument.
I have learned to spot idiots much more easily by watching the dialogue of a post develop and participating -- without doing the "it hurt my feelings, downvote!" thing.