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Mam, I wish geopolitics was as simple as you "genocide joe" bros seem to think it is.
This is actually huge and we should be celebrating it as a win. We'll that's if you actually care about the people of Gaza and don't just want to use them as an excuse to attack Biden.
the "genocide joe" people are pretty much the same as the people attacking dr. fauci for pushing vaccines, tbh
Geopolitics isn’t simple. Being against genocides is simple.
America is trying to fix the problem it helped create.
So you think if Biden was so inclined to he could just say "no more support for Israel" and everyone would just happily go along with it because he's president and everyone has to do what he says?
Or would an administration with no majority in either the senate or the house maybe have trouble going against decades of policy and doctrine, to abandon its closest ally in an incredibly unstable and important region and put at risk American political and corporate interests in the area?
Did they find oil in Gaza? /s
But for real though, if/when Israel bombs a US-built humanitarian shipping port, will the US finally stop supplying bombs?
This is so silly. This is just Biden trying to keep both sides of his own party happy....
It’s a bold move Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him.
Learning the history behind this conflict has made me reach the conclusion that the only way for it to be resolved is for Zionists to return the land they've stolen.
Just stop Israel and the problem is solved. No need to complicate yourselves with a damn port.
Just consider reality occasionally, ‘k?
Which is? To keep giving them bombs to kill children while also morally posturing and talking about how awful it is what Israel is doing?
"We are not waiting on the Israelis"
Also
The scheme will take several weeks to put into action, however, carrying the risk of supplying too little relief, too late.
Someone tell Biden that if he actually wants to do something he has a few aircraft carriers and frigates nearby perfectly capable of delivering food
Or maybe Biden doesn't want to do anything. He just wants to make it look like he does something. Wonder which it could be.
You people are actually braidead.
Please tell me how a frigate, nevermind a fuckjng aircraft carrier can deliver supplies without a fuckjng port to dock in?
The big ship stays in the water, and is used to supply smaller water craft that can ferry them directly to the coast; either by using smaller existing docks, or by simplying beaching on the cost. Unless we are saying that the US military lacks the ability to do a water based ground attack unless the enemy kindly leaves a port for them to use.
Israel already blocks all ship based access to Gaza. Building a port won't change this
I double dog dare Israel to try and stop a US Navy relief mission.
It does make one wonder why they didn't just land at Gaza's actual seaport.
Entirely possible you just can't anymore.
They shoot their own hostages in what seems like remenants or revival of the hanibal directive. It'd be foolish to assume they wont bite the hand that feeds, especially when they get away with everything they do. Why would Israel expect consequences?
But having the US navy run it might. Essentially, it becomes a question of who blinks first. Humanitarian organizations run away scared when the regional power starts dropping bombs and shhoting at them; and Israel knows it.
Picking a fight wirh the US military is a much bigger deal. This is why the US response to conflicts is often just "send in an aircraft carrier to float around near the issue"
Where is Meggido, again?
This is a moment for American leadership
Oooooooh shiiiit we know how this plays out
Still, at least the Palestinians have a shot at winning this one then 😂
Oh snap, we invading.
I mean, it probably won't be worse then the status quo
We say that every time and every time it gets worse
WW2 Nazi Germany. America and the Allies stopped the Holocaust.
You can say we've fucked a lot of our military interventions up, but we have stopped genocide before.
Yeah, our ancestors stopped genocide during World War 2. And then other ancestors tried to engage in genocide against Vietnam. And now we’re only just starting to attempt to convince Israel to not do genocide. So the record currently stands 1-1, with the current one being the tiebreaker.
The war machine must play both sides.
So, do we want the Biden administration to continue to work towards supporting Palestine, or do we want them to revert back to a hard defense of Israel and ramp up arms production?
Lemmy users are fucking braindead when it comes to building support for unified movements in America, and it shows time and time again.
This might be news for yall, but a nation of people does not change course overnight.
Yall do realize you are supposed to reward positive actions to encourage more of them right? If you punish people for doing the right thing the same way you punish them for doing wrong, you are just fucking up your own message.
Personally I want America to fuck right off and stop propping up regimes that suit their needs to the detriment of humankind the world over.
I want the Biden administration to stop selling them weapons and going to bat for them at the UN.
I want anyone engaged in war crimes to face consequences for their actions tbh.
Nuanced voices are rarely the loudest
What is up with lemmy and playing 'would you rather'?
How about not shipping arms to Israel with one hand and sending aid to Palestine with the other. Whoever has money in both sides is making bank off of this. If the US wants to be world police then maybe don’t let things go this far before changing stance on the matter. It took a hell of a lot of killing before the US government started to condemn Israel.
I have a 100 dollar auto donation to Trump's campaign set up. My family was mad at me for that, so I also set up a 10 dollar donation to Biden. That didn't seem to get them off my back, so in a few weeks I'm going to up my donation to Biden to 30 dollars. For some reason my family is still mad and wants me to stop donating to Trump. Can't they just celebrate how awesome my donation to Biden is? AITA?
When the choices are: 1) profit, or 2) profit
Why not do both? /s