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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Focusing the Friday morning address on the “anthropological crisis and the necessary promotion of human and Christian vocations,” Pope Francis said this task is challenged by myriad social challenges arising from the cultural zeitgeist, including gender ideology.

Highlighting the anthropological angle of the conference, the pope pointed to “an elementary and fundamental truth, which today we need to rediscover in all its beauty: The life of the human being is a vocation.”

The pope emphasized that this is a foundational element “which underlies every call within the community” and “has to do with an essential characteristic of the human being as such.”

What the fuck does this even mean?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"Women should have more babies...and probably stay home to raise them"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Two steps forward, one step backwards I guess

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I'm referring to the pope's acceptance of gay marriage

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

"today the ugliest danger is gender ideology, which cancels out differences"

Well I'm glad he said the misogynistic part out loud. In a religion in which only men can hold power, blurring the lines between who can be a man undermines their power structure. They see women as inferior chattel and the strict gender binary allows them to enforce their hegemony. I suppose the pope thinks that LGBT* people around the world being murdered and persecuted is a good thing as long as the cis white straight men get to stay in power.

Your position is a joke, and everyone with 2 brain cells can tell that it can only exist by enslaving half of the population and trying to murder another 2%. Like any good tiny dictator, you don't inspire respect for people to follow you, you reach for the cudgel of violence, and make no mistake, your words inspire violence just as much as if you lit the torches yourself. Your god will judge you accordingly.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

“This discovery,” the pope added, “brings us out of the isolation of a self-referential ego and makes us look at ourselves as an identity in relation.”

So racism is good because it creates a "tension" that allows you to compare yourself to others too, I take it?

Fundementally these arguments aren't even about trans folks. They're reheated arguments about second wave feminism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm surprised by this, I thought this guy was basically a socialist.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

"Gender ideology" has absolutely nothing on organized religion in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To steelman, or whatever they call it. Perhaps he's calling for radical acceptance; that men and women are undeniably different, and those differences are something that should be celebrated rather than denied.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A "fun" game when reading quotes from bigots is to swap out "gender ideology" with "bodily autonomy" to realize how absurd, hateful, and fascist the message really is. That's really what we're talking about; being trans isn't a choice but expressing your true gender is somewhat* a choice you make with your body and aesthetic. Fascists don't want people to have freedom, they want to have power over you for power's sake. The pushback against "gender ideology" isn't the reasoned philosophic debate that they want it to sound like, it's a war against already-marginalized people. It's "a boot stamping on a human face" because power is both the means and the ends for these fucks. Anyone supporting these assholes should ask themselves what happens if they finally succeed to stamp out the queer menace. Fascists' continued existence requires another group to persecute and if history is any guide it will be religious minorities, racial minorities, political rivals, etc. until the world is empty and there is no "fruitful ‘tension" that Pope Franky states that he values so much aside from the powerful and those that they decided to keep as slaves.

*somewhat because for many the choice is transition or suicide

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

"it's okay he's a good guy he ate spaghetti with Italian trans women"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Wasn't he the one to come out in support of homosexuality? Or was it just to justify the morality behind diddling little boys?

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