The official Steam page for Deep Silver and Starbreeze’s PAYDAY 3 game has been updated to show the use of this ever-controversial third-party DRM.

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[–] 132 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (36 children)

I like to use Denuvo as an indicator of a bad release. For someone with over 3k hours on PAYDAY 2, I just cancelled my preorder.

Thank you for the fun times OVERKILL, sad to see you go this way.

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  • [–] 85 points 3 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (22 children)

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    I don't know a lot about Denuvo, is it a bad thing? Why did you cancel your pre order based on that?

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  • [–] 65 points 3 years ago

    It's a DRM scheme to protect against piracy. Over the years I saw more and more shitty titles use Denuvo on release because God forbid someone steal their cash grab. A lot of titles that are of quality usually do not see the need for Denuvo.

    Therefore, nowadays, for me Denuvo serves as an indicator of a potentially shitty release. They slap Denuvo on top of it so that they can pump & dump.

    Maybe I'll buy the game when it's on sale, but for now I am too skeptical, especially since slapping additional DRM on an already DRM'd game (it's multiplayer only and always online, unlike previous parts that allowed offline play) does not make any sense to me.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)

    Edit: Seems the below statement was factually incorrect. Oops!

    It's a very obnoxious and heavy-handed approach to anti-piracy measures. It slows down games, kills framerates, gives users a whole host of other performance issues, and just makes the experience worse overall. It's a product that doesn't even seem to care to improve, because they make their money from publishers, not the people who buy and play the game. Many people hate it, and I believe it's absolutely justified.

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  • [–] 108 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Denuvo has become a very strong indicator to me that not the game devs are calling the shots during development, but the Excel-sheet-business-suit-monkeys are.

    Only some business-fool would look at a proposal to buy that piece of performance-guzzling crap and go "Hey, then everyone who'd be a pirate otherwise will buy my product and spend money in muh cash shop, that's totally worth the investment", ignoring the immense drawbacks for paying costumers.

    especially in a frickin' coop-shooter where piracy will never be as big of a deal because people want to play together with others on your frickin' servers anyway....

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  • [–] 33 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah, I don't get it -- the game is essentially online-only (not sure if you can play with bot teammates like the previous titles, but that wasn't too enjoyable anyway). Why pay for Denuvo as well unless you're out of touch?

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  • [–] 84 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Bro who tf is stealing Payday let alone to play alone. What a waste of money and a fuck you to paying customers.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    That's the thing, the game is already online only, why do they need anti piracy DRM on top of it?

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    [+] 53 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)
    [–] 53 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Isn't the game going to be online only in the first place? They're adding DRM on top of their DRM?

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    [–] 48 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Adding DRM to a co-op game is one of the stupidest things you can do. The only thing I can think of that would be worse would be adding DRM to a game that is already always-online.

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    "Payday 3 guarantees an objecticely worse user experience at launch on pc version"

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  • [–] 41 points 3 years ago

    Golden Rule: Denuvo games exist if and only if cracked by EMPRESS

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  • [–] 35 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    seems like a great way to punish honest people every time they try to play your game and mildly inconvenience pirates for about a week

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Fwiw, Denuvo is actually really hard to crack. There's like one well-known person who is capable and she's incredibly unlikeable. Agreeable sentiment though; Denuvo sucks and harms legitimate consumers (arguably more than it inconveniences pirates).

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago

    The price of this game makes it one you should definitely be a patient gamer on. Not only will you save a ton of money but it'll probably be Denuvo free eventually too.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago

    It'll be on game pass so I'll probably still test it out, but I really don't get why a Payday game would need anti-piracy measures since the whole point is to play co-op

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    Oh, this game’s gonna have a rough launch won’t it?

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    guess what game i will never play even if i wanted to my os kinda dosen't do kernel pevel drm

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    [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The constant updates and online features were reason enough to not pirate payday 2 tbh. This is no good. Just lost a customer. Sad

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    [+] 21 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 21 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    It's probably unlikely to happwn soon but in that case the only right answer is piracy once they found a way around this shit again!

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    I think we're down to only 1, maybe 2 people that can crack Denuovo. One of them is a raging psychopath lol

    I think in the end Denuovo is going to win. :(

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    Good to know I should download the free version instead

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  • [+] 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)
    [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Multi-decade old history repeating itself. This will only harm people who actually waste their money

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