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Oh this is just too messed up..now vending machines have cameras in them?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (4 children)

So I may be reading too far into this, but does this machine check your age and ethnicity to work out how much you might be willing to pay for M&Ms then charge you that much?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The company's documentation says it's for detecting when people walk by so it can turn on the screen. Because apparently a good old fashioned motion sensor wasn't good enough...

Edit: thought about this for another few seconds. It was probably so they could slap "AI" onto it for marketing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

A motion sensor would get tripped by anything that passes by, but even so, a basic image processing algorithm designed just to detect whether that thing is a human or not would be more than sufficient, there's no need to identify specific people by face.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

That doesn't explain the demographic profiling though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

they might not have been trying to use the data at the point of sale right away, but having a database of their customer's faces would be valuable to them for plenty of marketing type reasons

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's always big data, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it all ends up in a spreadsheet somewhere

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It's all just one giant spreadsheet?

🔫 Always has been

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

According to the article, it's done for market research, i.e. finding out who buys what, which is a thing businesses like to know. But also apparently it allows the machine to generate "AI-powered product recommendations", which i guess means it tailors reccomendations to each user? Which it can do because it has a touch screen, and the touch screen itself already strikes me as full of shit.

That's what the article says this machine in particular does; but yes, it could totally change the price on you depending on what you look like, and all other kinds of deeply shady things. You can count on a private company to do that kind of thing and then use their favorite argument: it's technically legal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It mentioned targeted discounts based on demographic, which sounds to be like pricing things based on demographic.

If the data is local and stays on the machine, I'm guessing they mean the face data. They are probably sending the data about what demographics buy what things at what price point to feed to other machines.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

even without the extreme privacy invasion, nobody needs back talk from a vending machine

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I feel like the solution is wearing fur suits and daftpunk style helmets every where. I'm okay with this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The solution is definitely to spray paint, or tape over the camera.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but no one noticed until the the stupid obvious error message.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Have you seen the camera? They intentionally hid it as well.

Looks like someone drilled a hole with a pocket knife and put a camera in.

Shady shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

People be lookin at the camera with masks on like:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’ve seen vending machines with cameras 10 years ago at least. Allegedly to prevent people from shaking and pivoting them so that the goods drop. Which people did. And started doing less once the cameras appeared. However, at that time, the message that “you are being recorded” was printed quite clearly on the front of the vending machine. Not mentioning that seems unlawful to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It might seem unlawful, but unfortunately it isn't. The government in the pocket of the corporations, and they want face tracking without your knowledge or consent. The 3 letter agencies certainly don't mind having that either.