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I see many Taylor swift posts with plane. Plane out of plane and more plane out of plane. Walking dog in plane, why so much plane?

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Taylor uses her private jet way too much. But recently she threatened the Twitter account tracking the plane's movement. So that's probably why the memes are coming out now.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In particular she used a private jet for a 13 minute journey

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

13 minutes by air, or 13 minutes by ground, out of curiosity?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I imagine by air, but hope it was by ground and that there is a video of that one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Takes off on one runway, lands at another runway at the same airport

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Did not think of that one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That one just seems like there had to be more to it. I know very little about private plane usage but I find it hard to believe that there wasnt more to the story. Hangar space, maintenence, ground fees, lack of accommodation, etc. Even if I had absolute fuck you money and her kind of schedule it saved an estimated 15 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Maybe. I think I saw something about it being potentially a maintenance flight and she wasn't even onboard. But the memes are already in motion now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

So it's basically like when Elon Musk was whining about the same thing, and people made a point to spam his plane's movements everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There is a twitter account that tracks her private jet and she threatend legal actions against the person running it.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

And she has/had multiple private jets and uses them indiscriminately. Bad for the environment.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Even though it's publicly available information

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

2 Swift 2 Furious

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I feel like there’s also been an upswing in anti-Taylor Swift stuff in general. It’s been growing since she started her most recent tour and re-recording older albums where she doesn’t own rights to the original recordings, which has lead to her dominating pop music radio stations and being named TIME magazine’s Person of the Year. The issues of ticket scalping from her tour publicly angered her and led to rumbles of a potential congressional investigation of Ticketmaster and Live Nation’s virtual monopoly over concert venues (which is long overdue). But the backlash really seemed to pick up this fall after she started dating a player in the National Football League and attending as many of his games as her schedule allowed. As one of the top-earning celebrities on earth currently, the cameras would often show her reaction after he had a good play, perhaps more often than they would if it was another family member. She would also be shown again a few other times during the games. I don’t know if it’s really happening, but there have been some reports that Taylor Swift fanatics who would not normally watch football have started watching in hopes of seeing her. All of this seems to have made a lot of people mad, but particularly a segment of conservative men for some reason. There was a conspiracy theory going around shortly before her boyfriend’s team played in the league’s championship game that the whole thing was rigged and that after his team won she would give a speech endorsing Joe Biden for president (never mind that the boyfriend’s team had won the championship last year and four years ago and lost the championship three years ago, making them a dominant contender in recent years). It’s been strange to me how many people I’ve seen who are very vocal about climate change being a hoax are suddenly posting about how much Taylor Swift uses her private jet and how bad the emissions from it are, making them strange bedfellows with climate change believers who also oppose private jet use in general. I’ve also started seeing memes from conservative people about how much they hate her music and would never want to listen to her performance, even though I’m pretty sure some of these people were fans of hers back from her debut as a country music singer-songwriter up until fairly recently, even after she transitioned to mainstream pop. I find the whole thing very strange, like out of 1984 when the war opponent would suddenly flip and everyone insisted they’d always hated the new opponent and loved the new ally, their old opponent.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This is a well thought out post but it's hard to get through it because of the lack of paragraphs.

Not to be a dick, everyone's allowed to post how they want but it's a bit hard to read, for me on my phone at least.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol I read the first two sentences and was like "sounds good but I can't read this block of text" and gave up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I was the type, I'd work on making it a new copypasta

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don't let your memes be dreams

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree it's difficult to get through, I think it's worth reading though. Where would you have put the paragraph breaks?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Like this:

I feel like there’s also been an upswing in anti-Taylor Swift stuff in general. It’s been growing since she started her most recent tour and re-recording older albums where she doesn’t own rights to the original recordings, which has lead to her dominating pop music radio stations and being named TIME magazine’s Person of the Year.

The issues of ticket scalping from her tour publicly angered her and led to rumbles of a potential congressional investigation of Ticketmaster and Live Nation’s virtual monopoly over concert venues (which is long overdue). But the backlash really seemed to pick up this fall after she started dating a player in the National Football League and attending as many of his games as her schedule allowed.

As one of the top-earning celebrities on earth currently, the cameras would often show her reaction after he had a good play, perhaps more often than they would if it was another family member. She would also be shown again a few other times during the games.

I don’t know if it’s really happening, but there have been some reports that Taylor Swift fanatics who would not normally watch football have started watching in hopes of seeing her. All of this seems to have made a lot of people mad, but particularly a segment of conservative men for some reason.

There was a conspiracy theory going around shortly before her boyfriend’s team played in the league’s championship game that the whole thing was rigged and that after his team won she would give a speech endorsing Joe Biden for president (never mind that the boyfriend’s team had won the championship last year and four years ago and lost the championship three years ago, making them a dominant contender in recent years).

It’s been strange to me how many people I’ve seen who are very vocal about climate change being a hoax are suddenly posting about how much Taylor Swift uses her private jet and how bad the emissions from it are, making them strange bedfellows with climate change believers who also oppose private jet use in general.

I’ve also started seeing memes from conservative people about how much they hate her music and would never want to listen to her performance, even though I’m pretty sure some of these people were fans of hers back from her debut as a country music singer-songwriter up until fairly recently, even after she transitioned to mainstream pop. I find the whole thing very strange, like out of 1984 when the war opponent would suddenly flip and everyone insisted they’d always hated the new opponent and loved the new ally, their old opponent.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've been trying to think of how to do a meme about wingnuts loving plane memes at the moment, but I'm only good at stealing templates... 100% this is ham fisted right wing astroturfing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It absolutely is, and it's super disappointing to see everyone here lapping it up. Is celebrity private jet usage a problem? Yes. Should we maybe stop and think why it's just Taylor Swift being targeted? Also yes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

There's just been an uptick in Taylor Swift related stuff in general.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Idk it's a lot simpler for me. She hit a billion, she's on the shit list. Her plane can stay grounded and the memes will flow til then. No such thing as a good billionaire.

I actually really like a lot of the stuff she is doing. She's fighting Ticketmaster. She's fighting shitty copyright laws. She does a lot of philanthropy. Still though, you don't get to a billion without exploitation, and all billionaires should absolutely be the target of criticism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Finally a good grounded argument against Swift.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Were you expecting fancier posts?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just put top hats on the planes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Don't forget the monocle

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I was told I could find Grade A Fancy posts here, but these certainly are not.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

20 years ago Conservatives attacked Al Gore over the same thing. It's dumb gotcha tribalism. "You want to reduce carbon emissions, yet your job requires you to emit lots of carbon." Bleh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Her job doesn't require private jet use.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Private, public. What's the difference? She's not flying in the plane alone, is she?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think a private jet uses the same amount of fuel to move a passenger from point A to point B as a passenger jet? Or even a car for that 28 mile trip?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know. Are you going to tell me the answer? I apologize for my ignorance.

A private jet is smaller and lighter. As long as it's packed full of people, is it really less efficient? I don't think the economics of jet size is necessarily intuitive, so, again, forgive my ignorance.

Bringing up cars is beside the point. Riding a bike would be even better! But we were talking about jet types.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Taylor Swift owns a Dassault Falcon 900. It uses 267 gallons per hour, flies at 552 mph, and seats 12 passengers.

A Boeing 373-800 burns 850 US gallons per hour, flies at 494–544 mph, and seats 168 passengers.

(Gallons per hour/miles per hour) = gallons per mile

(gallons per mile/passenger count) = gallons per passenger per mile)

Dassault 900: 267/552 = .48 Miles per gallon

.48/12 = .040 gallons per passenger per mile

Boeing 373: 850/494 = 1.72 gallon per mile

1.72/168 = .010 gallons per passenger per mile

A Boeing 737 is four times more fuel efficient per passenger than Taylor Swift’s plane.

Bringing up cars is beside the point. Riding a bike would be even better! But we were talking about jet types.

All these memes are being spurred on because her private jet made a 13 minute flight that would have been a 30 minute car ride.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

She’s a planewalker

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Well this clears everything up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I prefer X-plane(actions) though. X-59 seems pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This is what I saw.. Maybe it explains it to you, maybe it doesn't. Who knows?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Plane! Plane! What is plane?"

fyi - it's a Star Trek reference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Rishi deserves it more than Taylor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yo dawg, we've heard you like planes? We put a plane into your plane so you can fly while you're flying.

Am I just old? Who gets the reference?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

President Grant?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It's republicans and/or conservatives mad that she probably will vote for a democrat.