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[–] 66 points 3 years ago (3 children)

It’s shady practices like this that fuel conspiracy theories and erode public trust in science.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    My mother appears convinced it’s a Chinese medical lab. So, yea.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Well, because it is actually

    The county also discovered nearly 1,000 bioengineered mice. Wang Zhaolin, a representative of Prestige Biotech – the company operating the lab – told county investigators that the mice were genetically engineered to catch and carry the COVID-19 virus

    I mean if you don't want conspiracy theories to spread then don't make them true to begin with

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    I actually noticed that when searching for "prestige biotech" (the name of the company) pretty much all the conservative media already state that it is Chinese linked. The weird thing is that they state it as a fact without explaining how they arrived to this conclusion.

    I mean, it very well might be, but tell me how you arrived to that conclusion.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Chinese listed owner. Chinese representative. Mysterious purpose with unknown source of funds. Not too hard to connect the dots.

    Edit: Apparently people don't realise Chinese can refer to ethnicity as well as nationality. Yes, it would be ideal if we had different terms for the two.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    The article didn't mention the guy's nationality, unless I missed it.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Both the owner and representative of the company are Chinese, so why wouldn't she think that?

    Also, how many other countries would be interested in maintaining a bioweapons facility in the US?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Because being Chinese doesn’t mean you are a Chinese nationalist. It’s a pretty racist jump to make.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Buddy, see my username? Yeah, that's a Chinese name. I of all people know exactly what the difference is between Chinese ethnicity and Chinese nationality.

    With that said, the majority of Chinese business people have some connection or other to China, be it family, business, or otherwise. Combine that with the context here of mysterious purpose (but probably bioweapons), unknown funding source and complete lack of any commercial purpose, etc etc, and it's not a hard conclusion to draw.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    You speak as if this is common. The reason this is news is because it’s random AF.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago

    Just like trans athletes in sports. Which are like what? 3 people?

    It makes for good headlines and that's why it's news and gives the rightwing conspiracy nuts more fuel for the next big idiotic thing.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Here is my issue: they seem to be using ‘bio-engendered mice’ as a scare phrase. Nearly all mice in a research facility will be, everywhere.

    It’ve been weirder had they NOT been genetically modified.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago

    I'm REALLY not trying to deaden the conspiracy-ness of this article...

    But during covid we basically let a lot of research protocols and testing slack on the protocols:

    https://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/regulations-and-policy/single-irb-exception-determinations/october-2020-exception-determination/index.html

    https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/exception-informed-consent-requirements-emergency-research

    I haven't seen a protocol exception on sourcing research subjects, but I'm sure one was in place during covid, and I will bet real money these clowns were selling test mice, their paperwork was in faded crayon, they got paid 100x the normal prices, and unlike everyone else they just were too stupid to shut down and get out while the getting was good.

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  • [+] [B] 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    What was illegal about it? Was that warehouse not zoned for labs? Obviously poor storage and labeling practices, but surly (maybe) not illegal?

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  • [–] 83 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    You can't just decide to set up a medical lab and do experiments with infectious diseases and animals without permits and licences and oversight, you know.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I thought this was America!!!

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago

    A lot of stuff sounded illegal. Poor storage is illegal when dealing with bio safety hazards of this level, poor labeling too. Sounded like they didn’t have protocols available or even approved by review boards which is illegal. I doubt they even had proper bio safety ratings which would be illegal in this case. The whole situation sounds extremely dangerous and I hope no harm has been done.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Do you want an actual Raccoon City? Because this is how you get an actual Raccoon City...

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    I was gonna bet Fresno, Modesto or Bakersfield. Got it in one.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    There’s this docu series on netflix (unnatural selection) about genetic engineering in general but also about some people (with and without science background) who believe that anyone should be able to do genetic engineering at home (Josiah Zayner is one of them, i believe he still sells lab equipment and reagents for anyone who want to do some DIY bio-engineering). They also follow this guy who stopped taking his HIV meds and started using some kind of antibody that was developed by some shady company (it didn’t work and guess what; not a single physician was involved). I believe one of these shady guys was found dead in a sensory deprivation pod with ketamine in his blood.

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