▲ 296 ▼ Illegal medical lab containing bioengineered mice and infectious agents including HIV and herpes discovered in California (www.insider.com) submitted 3 years ago by fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com to c/news@lemmy.world 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] june@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago (3 children) My mother appears convinced it’s a Chinese medical lab. So, yea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 43 points 3 years ago (2 children) Well, because it is actually The county also discovered nearly 1,000 bioengineered mice. Wang Zhaolin, a representative of Prestige Biotech – the company operating the lab – told county investigators that the mice were genetically engineered to catch and carry the COVID-19 virus I mean if you don't want conspiracy theories to spread then don't make them true to begin with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Wow... I mean I know why that makes sense, but still, wow... permalink fedilink source parent [–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Pretty sure one of the Chinese ran USA labs were caught sending samples of contagious diseases back to China via standard DHL type packages. This was before COVID. permalink fedilink source parent [–] takeda@kbin.social 16 points 3 years ago* (3 children) I actually noticed that when searching for "prestige biotech" (the name of the company) pretty much all the conservative media already state that it is Chinese linked. The weird thing is that they state it as a fact without explaining how they arrived to this conclusion. I mean, it very well might be, but tell me how you arrived to that conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wahming@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Chinese listed owner. Chinese representative. Mysterious purpose with unknown source of funds. Not too hard to connect the dots. Edit: Apparently people don't realise Chinese can refer to ethnicity as well as nationality. Yes, it would be ideal if we had different terms for the two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) The article didn't mention the guy's nationality, unless I missed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] takeda@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Exactly, have they said that, I wouldn't have problem with it. The articles that I looked at weren't mentioning anything beyond it is Chinese linked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @agent_flounder @wahming Exactly. Assumptions rarely lead to facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wahming@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I used the term Chinese to refer to ethnicity, not nationality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Why would ethnicity matter in this context? permalink fedilink source parent [+] 30mag@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Reading. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wahming@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Both the owner and representative of the company are Chinese, so why wouldn't she think that? Also, how many other countries would be interested in maintaining a bioweapons facility in the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Because being Chinese doesn’t mean you are a Chinese nationalist. It’s a pretty racist jump to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wahming@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Buddy, see my username? Yeah, that's a Chinese name. I of all people know exactly what the difference is between Chinese ethnicity and Chinese nationality. With that said, the majority of Chinese business people have some connection or other to China, be it family, business, or otherwise. Combine that with the context here of mysterious purpose (but probably bioweapons), unknown funding source and complete lack of any commercial purpose, etc etc, and it's not a hard conclusion to draw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Butters@lemmywinks.com -1 points 3 years ago It’s sad you have to identify yourself as Chinese in order to make this statement. Like we can’t judge a statement based on it’s content alone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LexiconDexicon@lemmy.world 43 points 3 years ago (2 children) Well, because it is actually The county also discovered nearly 1,000 bioengineered mice. Wang Zhaolin, a representative of Prestige Biotech – the company operating the lab – told county investigators that the mice were genetically engineered to catch and carry the COVID-19 virus I mean if you don't want conspiracy theories to spread then don't make them true to begin with permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Wow... I mean I know why that makes sense, but still, wow... permalink fedilink source parent [–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Pretty sure one of the Chinese ran USA labs were caught sending samples of contagious diseases back to China via standard DHL type packages. This was before COVID. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago Wow... I mean I know why that makes sense, but still, wow... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Pretty sure one of the Chinese ran USA labs were caught sending samples of contagious diseases back to China via standard DHL type packages. This was before COVID. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] takeda@kbin.social 16 points 3 years ago* (3 children) I actually noticed that when searching for "prestige biotech" (the name of the company) pretty much all the conservative media already state that it is Chinese linked. The weird thing is that they state it as a fact without explaining how they arrived to this conclusion. I mean, it very well might be, but tell me how you arrived to that conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] wahming@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Chinese listed owner. Chinese representative. Mysterious purpose with unknown source of funds. Not too hard to connect the dots. Edit: Apparently people don't realise Chinese can refer to ethnicity as well as nationality. Yes, it would be ideal if we had different terms for the two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) The article didn't mention the guy's nationality, unless I missed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] takeda@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Exactly, have they said that, I wouldn't have problem with it. The articles that I looked at weren't mentioning anything beyond it is Chinese linked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @agent_flounder @wahming Exactly. Assumptions rarely lead to facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wahming@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I used the term Chinese to refer to ethnicity, not nationality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Why would ethnicity matter in this context? permalink fedilink source parent [+] 30mag@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Reading. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wahming@kbin.social 19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Chinese listed owner. Chinese representative. Mysterious purpose with unknown source of funds. Not too hard to connect the dots. Edit: Apparently people don't realise Chinese can refer to ethnicity as well as nationality. Yes, it would be ideal if we had different terms for the two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) The article didn't mention the guy's nationality, unless I missed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] takeda@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Exactly, have they said that, I wouldn't have problem with it. The articles that I looked at weren't mentioning anything beyond it is Chinese linked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @agent_flounder @wahming Exactly. Assumptions rarely lead to facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wahming@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I used the term Chinese to refer to ethnicity, not nationality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Why would ethnicity matter in this context? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (3 children) The article didn't mention the guy's nationality, unless I missed it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] takeda@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Exactly, have they said that, I wouldn't have problem with it. The articles that I looked at weren't mentioning anything beyond it is Chinese linked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @agent_flounder @wahming Exactly. Assumptions rarely lead to facts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wahming@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I used the term Chinese to refer to ethnicity, not nationality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Why would ethnicity matter in this context? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] takeda@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago Exactly, have they said that, I wouldn't have problem with it. The articles that I looked at weren't mentioning anything beyond it is Chinese linked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @agent_flounder @wahming Exactly. Assumptions rarely lead to facts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wahming@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I used the term Chinese to refer to ethnicity, not nationality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Why would ethnicity matter in this context? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Why would ethnicity matter in this context? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 30mag@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wahming@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago (2 children) Both the owner and representative of the company are Chinese, so why wouldn't she think that? Also, how many other countries would be interested in maintaining a bioweapons facility in the US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Because being Chinese doesn’t mean you are a Chinese nationalist. It’s a pretty racist jump to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wahming@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Buddy, see my username? Yeah, that's a Chinese name. I of all people know exactly what the difference is between Chinese ethnicity and Chinese nationality. With that said, the majority of Chinese business people have some connection or other to China, be it family, business, or otherwise. Combine that with the context here of mysterious purpose (but probably bioweapons), unknown funding source and complete lack of any commercial purpose, etc etc, and it's not a hard conclusion to draw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Butters@lemmywinks.com -1 points 3 years ago It’s sad you have to identify yourself as Chinese in order to make this statement. Like we can’t judge a statement based on it’s content alone. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Because being Chinese doesn’t mean you are a Chinese nationalist. It’s a pretty racist jump to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wahming@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Buddy, see my username? Yeah, that's a Chinese name. I of all people know exactly what the difference is between Chinese ethnicity and Chinese nationality. With that said, the majority of Chinese business people have some connection or other to China, be it family, business, or otherwise. Combine that with the context here of mysterious purpose (but probably bioweapons), unknown funding source and complete lack of any commercial purpose, etc etc, and it's not a hard conclusion to draw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Butters@lemmywinks.com -1 points 3 years ago It’s sad you have to identify yourself as Chinese in order to make this statement. Like we can’t judge a statement based on it’s content alone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wahming@kbin.social 5 points 3 years ago (2 children) Buddy, see my username? Yeah, that's a Chinese name. I of all people know exactly what the difference is between Chinese ethnicity and Chinese nationality. With that said, the majority of Chinese business people have some connection or other to China, be it family, business, or otherwise. Combine that with the context here of mysterious purpose (but probably bioweapons), unknown funding source and complete lack of any commercial purpose, etc etc, and it's not a hard conclusion to draw. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Butters@lemmywinks.com -1 points 3 years ago It’s sad you have to identify yourself as Chinese in order to make this statement. Like we can’t judge a statement based on it’s content alone. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] xthedeerlordx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Butters@lemmywinks.com -1 points 3 years ago It’s sad you have to identify yourself as Chinese in order to make this statement. Like we can’t judge a statement based on it’s content alone. permalink fedilink source parent