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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The climate problem caused by relentless pursuit of quarterly profit is starting to affect our quarterly profits!!!! When it was just the majority of the human species at stake it was just fun and games, but now it's starting to disrupt %1er pocketbooks in no meaningful way so now I care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HuR dUr DeRp you're the global 1%!

Just needed to pointlessly point that out when people mention the problems in our society!

It doesn't serve any purpose other than deflecting, but HuR dUr DeRp it's a point I can make to look smart!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This response is really interesting to me. Can you really see no other thing that could have motivated my comment than to anonymously look smart? Do you really believe that assigning blame to those most responsible for causing the problem is a deflection? Who am I protecting by "scapegoating" the relentless pursuit of short term profits by investors for driving the climate crisis as well as driving the main opposition to policy which may allow us to avoid the mass death and suffering that industry is leading us toward?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, sorry! That's not at all what I intended. It was to cut off the jerks that love to make that comment when they see people refer to the 1%. It's always "yeah buddy you're the global 1% too so..."

Sorry if it seemed like it was directed at you specifically!

Bad reddit habit. I would leave comments that reference what I'm replying to, but really meant for those that come read the thread after.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No problem. I've done the same many times.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What ? Climate change is impacting negatively the economy ?

No it's not possible. Remember, 3°C of warming would only reduce the global GDP by 2.1%. (According to Nobel prize winner William Nordhaus)

So please stop complaining, put a hat, pull your bootstrap and go back to the construction site. And try not to fall in the ground because you might get a third degree burn on the asphalt and we can't afford a replacement since nobody want to work anymore.

/s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine how much money shipping companies will make/save when they can send cargo haulers where the ice caps used to be!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Nordhaus estimates were always known for having limited utility for large changes in temperatures.

They assumed that damage to a sector wouldn't matter much if it was currently a small part of the economy. For example, if agriculture was 2% of the US economy, and agricultural output went to zero, the result would be 2% damage to GDP. The real world doesn't work that way though: people who are starving to death don't work, so GDP would go to zero in that case.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't wait for linemen, welders, and others to need borderline astronaut suits for working outdoors in Summer... -_-

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Either that, or the deaths and heat-related disinterest (read: giving up their skill or never getting into it in the first place) that causes the worker pools to dwindle. Cooled suits won't totally fix that issue, because it will be another hurdle that people will need to get past. Which is already a huge thing with many skills that people probably never have a chance to try due to cost or setup requirements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh no, companies might have to pay to train apprentices again! 😱

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I really hope this triggers the ruling class to care but I get the feeling it'll be thrown on the pile of other "investments that make money" along with healthcare, working public transit, proper electrical grid, and free college. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I sense a certain billionaire is going to propose construction workers should only work night shifts and that's why his silly ten sign is glowing like Ashalim Power Station