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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I believe there is now a law that says that a President can't pull out of NATO. Only Congress can make that call.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good, then NATO can charge the US with war crimes since they will no longer be an ally. Get fucked

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would gladly watch all of our politicians get charged with war crimes. I can only dream.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

No, Putin didn't ask him to do that. Totally just an idea he has for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if the rest of NATO would allow this. Like, okay, the US "pulls out" and stops all their commitments to NATO. It would still be in NATO's best interest, should Trump eventually leave office, that the US retain its membership. Create a paperwork "penalty box" that allows Trump to feel like he's won but allow future, more sane Presidents, an easy on-ramp back into full membership.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if the rest of NATO would allow this.

I imagine he'd "pull us out of NATO" like he "pulled us out of NAFTA". Which is to say he'd slap a new "America First" label on the old organization, take a few weeks off to vacation at a bunch of European golf courses, do a big signing ceremony in front of OAN handi-cams, and yell "I Made America Great Again" into the faces of anyone who thinks this is baby-tier bullshit.

Create a paperwork “penalty box” that allows Trump to feel like he’s won but allow future, more sane Presidents, an easy on-ramp back into full membership.

I think the real end-game is about goosing US military exports. Trump threatens a pull out, on the condition that all the member states boost their domestic military budgets. Then those member states buy more shit from American MIC contractors. The MIC rewards Trump with political capital. And Trump takes kickbacks in the form of club memberships and no-show jobs for his extended family.

My man loves to bluff about taking his ball and going home. And he'll happily sign a big executive order with an oversized sharpee, proclaiming "We Aren't In NATO Anymore!" whether or not we actually left, because it plays well with his base. But the real influence that the US has in NATO is more about Trump extending/denying France or the UK or Finland or whomever with navy and air support to hold business assets in former colonies.

Trump knows that and he knows it offers him immense leverage, given how much these other countries rely on US power projection. So he'll very likely get a new wave of EU militarization at the enrichment of American MIC, because its the only way the other NATO states decouple their reliance on the US for "free" military support.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Thanks for welcoming me to your town Mayor Winky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is John Bolton a good guy now?

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