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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Half? Half?

Fuckin hell they're murdering genocidal cunts😂

Do these same yanks call their school shooters "Slightly frustrated students"? Fucking hell

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most of the people that agree with Israel I've come across are very religious and can't comprehend that they are wrong because they are on the side of the good guys in the bible. It doesn't matter if you show them sources. They have spent their whole life closing their eyes to anything that threatens their worldview

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm being sincere in that question, I don't have much information about the Bible. But how are they the good guys when they killed Jesus? Isn't that reason enough to think they are not the good guys?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're mostly right and the Christian church has been deeply antisemitic for most of its history.

The Holocaust had a deeply chilling effect on those aspects of the Christian church and while the overt antisemitism has largely vanished the last 80 years, the theology of most Christians still has antisemitic thought baked in to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Talk about holding a grudge for 2000 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

A large part of the old Testament is about the Jewish people and how they are God's chosen people. In the new testament Jesus made it (to the Christian perspective) so everyone gets to be in that chosen club. The crucifix is a roman thing even though the angy mob was Jewish, Jesus was also Jewish, many followers of Jesus were Jews etc. Also some prophecies in the book of revelations (last book in the bible) but I don't remember much off hand.

Add in the horrors of the Holocaust and its hard for people with a simplistic good or bad/binary worldview to even understand other perspectives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Boomers are realizing what a pathetic and dystopian legacy they are leaving and want to do what their parents did... by sending the youth off to do what their parents did... but they aren't realizing that part because of the dementia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

In my country the majority of press is downplaying the situation. The report the facts somewhere in an article, but the headlines and tenor when you start reading make is sound different from what it is. "Israel defends itself" and always "To stop the Hamas terrorists".

Not sure how it is in the US.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Wow, I didn't quite expect this kind of change from Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Conservative leaders are quietly stoking the opposition to Israel because it hurts Biden. Every article on Fox News related to Israel is either unabashedly pro-Israel or all about how Biden is bungling the situation. It's careful to avoid direct criticism, but always references how many people are saying they don't approve of Israel and Biden. So even though Biden is doing what they would do, they get to criticize him for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Broadly, the poll shows support for Israel and the Biden administration’s handling of the situation ebbing slightly further across the board. The poll shows 31% of U.S. adults approve of Biden’s handling of the conflict, including just 46% of Democrats. That’s as an earlier spike in support for Israel following the Hamas attacks Oct. 7 sags.

46% of Dems is pretty much 50% of the country...

I doubt many Republicans think Israel has gone to far.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Recheck your math. If we assume Dems are 50% of the country (they aren't, but lets just assume it) then 46% of 50% should be 23%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

158,397,726 general election popular votes were cast in 2020.

81,282,916 went Democrat. 74,223,369 went Republican. 2,891,441 went other.

The population of the US that was over the age of 18 in 2020 was 258.3 million.

That means in 2020, 31% of America was Democrat, 29% of America was Republican, 1% percent of America was other, and 39% of America was disenfranchised from the system.

The majority of Americans, in a democratic election, have rejected the sham that is the modern Federal government.

The winning "party" is "fuck all of it, its all corrupt."

Democracy in America has been dead for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Largest registered voter group is democrats, then independents, then republicans. Democrats are like 38% or something IIRC

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The country is 92% Democrat?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Even so, it would still only add up to 46% of the total population. By this logic, 108.7% of the country would have to be Democrat.

I guess it works if the votes are counted the way the Republicans claim they are.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alternative title: Half of US adults say Israel hasn't gone far enough in war in Gaza

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thinking they haven't gone too far is not the same as thinking they haven't gone far enough, so no. Not an alternative Title.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Alright, fair enough.

"Half of US adults say they're fine with what Israel has so far done in Gaza"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON (AP) — Half of U.S. adults say Israel’s 15-week-old military campaign in Gaza has “gone too far,” a finding driven mainly by growing disapproval among Republicans and political independents, according to a new poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

Broadly, the poll shows support for Israel and the Biden administration’s handling of the situation ebbing slightly further across the board.

Melissa Morales, a 36-year-old political independent in Runnemede, New Jersey, says she finds herself watching videos and news from Gaza daily.

The U.S. has become increasingly isolated in its support of Israel as the Palestinian death toll rises past 27,000, with two-thirds of the victims women and children.

The poll also shows about half of U.S. adults are extremely or very concerned that the latest war between Israel and Hamas will lead to a broader conflict in the Middle East.

The poll of 1,152 adults was conducted using a sample drawn from NORC’s probability-based AmeriSpeak Panel, designed to represent the U.S. population.


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