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[–] 83 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As far as I understand, Europe will push for removable batteries by 2027.. So we might actually get back to those glory days.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Might is the key word. I honestly doubt it will be like in the old days where you just pop the lid and put a new one. EU requires replaceable battery by the end user but it doesn't state how simply that can be done. Am expecting to see something like few screws at the bottom of the phone and stuff like that. But even that will be awesome.

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    [–] 77 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    I still won't buy a phone without a microSD slot.

    GET OFF MY LAWN!

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    What phones even still do? Sonys? Low end Samsungs? Fairphone?

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    [–] 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    That's actually making a comeback because the EU got pissed.

    My phone's brand new and it has a removable battery, not even in the EU

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think it is because the EU listened to the people. This is what you get when elected representatives are not bankrolled by big business, and are allowed to enact legislation that doesn't only benefit one side.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Coz batteries degrade over time, and this way you’re either forced to buy a new phone, or have to pay to have the battery replaced

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    No headphone jack
    No memory card slot
    No ir blaster

    Why are they making it a useless device??

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To sell you more phones. Duh.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

    They used to have microSD..

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The only valid reason is waterproofing. If the phone isn't waterproof, it's only to limit repairability... Also one factor in that was, I believe, the thinness war, but that's pretty much over now as they all got to the practical limit I guess.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Unfortunately we still see too many people push the "but my IP rating" narrative without realising that engineers are perfectly able to design gaskets for all kinds of applications.

    Some phones with removable batteries even had them and were (to a certain degree) waterproof.

    The ONLY reason phones are no longer servicable is profits. Why extend a product's lifespan if you can just frustrate the consumer to the point where they will just buy another one?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    I'm not even sure thinness was something consumers ever would have demanded (at the sacrifice of battery life) if the mfrs hadn't pushed it as a selling point.

    In the flipphone days I didn't know many people who didn't have at least one spare battery, so they could swap to a fresh one on the go without having to charge, or bought extra thick batteries with higher capacity, extending the back of the phone.

    Then when smartphones had removable batteries, lots of people still did those things. And all during that time I remember many reviewers and consumers reacting to many of the "thinness" claims with "I'd really like a bigger battery instead."

    I also remember it being proven that apple's removal of the headphone jack impacted neither waterproofing nor thinness, despite their claims. (But then of course one by one others started following suit.)

    I think it's better for mfrs and that's the only reason. It saves them money on mfr, or gets phones tossed in the bin faster. Possibly both.

    I'd still take 2 or 3 more mm of thickness for an amazing battery.

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Why do you think my old ass bought a fair phone

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Take away user choice, use really bad excuses like water proofing and space saving, and you can be sure consumers will iteratively buy more frequently and spend more for cloud services.

    Bye battery Bye bye headphone jack Bye bye user expandable storage.

    Capitalism has steered us to this as the preferable product.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    My Fairphone 3 still has a removable battery. I replaced the battery myself last year. It took me 10 seconds once it arrived.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    A lot of anti-user design choices were first introduced by the iPhone. As someone who has owned iPhones since the iPhone 3G, I blame myself.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Integrating the battery saves a small amount of space and weight. That makes the phone very slightly thinner and lighter, which is what most people seem to prefer. Same with not having expandable memory. IMO it's a bad tradeoff, but I still miss physical keyboards.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    "There removable, see all you need is 7 specialized tools!"

    "We cant have users replacing there own batterys what if they puntchure or swallow the battery?"

    "Making the battery removable would make the phone more bulky and limits innovation"

    -Companys BS reasons

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Computers were not stopping you from running any software you want, until they got small enough for people to forget they are still computers.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Some still do. I just started working at Walmart, and they give you a Samsung phone to do your job. You use the camera for scanning tags, shelving, check item status, and a bunch of other shit. It's a modern phone, with USB c, fingerprint sensor in the power button, android 13, stupid hole-punch camera, etc. And when I pulled off the otterbox case they gave me with it, I found that the back pulls off and the battery pops out, like all of my phones used to do back in the day. I assume that's so they can more easily keep these phones in use, as they can pull out a failing battery and pop a new one in without having to send the phone sent off for servicing.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is so the spyware can't be disabled via battery removal

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I remember when my mom had a phone with a removable battery, she would drop it a lot and it would separate into a gazillion components but it wouldn't break. I miss the days

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Recently switched from a certain predatory fruity phone to a phone from a certain Dutch manufacturer that has removable battery and replaceable parts. At some point, it got water damaged, and the charging circuit stopped working. While I'm waiting for the replacement part to arrive, I can continue using it by charging the battery with a bench power supply. Feels good man!

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    I suspect that this was considered a feature when it was fist envisioned and technology progressed so quickly that you needed a new phone each year just to use available services. In that light, it didn't matter if your battery only lasted 2 years.

    Now that you can run your cell phone easily for 5 - 7 years, batteries are important again. Thank you EU for requiring replaceable ones in the future, you may have helped the entire world.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Planned obsolescence

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    The EU, despite (valid) criticisms and pravacy mis-steps, is right now the only large, powerful organization fighting for consumer rights. I wish I, as an American, could support them, because the laws the EU is passing benefit me as well.

    Go EU, indeed!

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    They also had keyboards that worked well and there was even real competition for on-screen keyboards until Google bought out and dissolved the best keyboard because they really want your ducking typing data.

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