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From the github:

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR OTHER LAUNCHERS (lutris/bottles/heroic/legendary,etc):

  • everyone can use + contribute to the same protonfixes, no more managing individual install scripts per launcher
  • everyone can run their games through proton just like a native steam game
  • no steam or steam binaries required
  • a unified online database of game fixes (protonfixes)
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[–] [email protected] 93 points 9 months ago (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 195 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Finally, a good meme to call out this NPC response

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Can we get one for this too?

I'm tired of seeing devs on Discords and Slack channels jerk themselves raw with it every time they get any kind of negative feedback whatsoever on a change they pushed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Damn, never saw this meme. Where does it get used at?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

This is beautiful

[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It really depends whether he got the devs of "Lutris, Heroic, Legendary, Bottles, etc." to agree to use the unified runtime before starting this project. As long as he gets most of the big players to join then it will actually become the only standard worth using.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Based on the currently Bottles dev's plans to create Bottles Next, my guess is no

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Why would that effect whether or not they would use it?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure how it's relevant. Was anyone else even trying to make a standard? They were mostly just all doing their own thing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

From the naming it's clear that GE wants this to be the new standard, but it's not really a new standard. This is porting Steam's launcher, which already exists, to non-Steam clients.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (20 children)

Yeah - that was my worry.

Unification of standards only works if everyone agrees to use it and only it (i.e. mobile phones and USB C), otherwise you're just adding another one to the pile.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is a bigger issue for hardware than software. This is why we can use heroic, proton, lutris, or whatever. And most programmers who can offload a part of their code onto another project that is doing the job well will. That's exactly how Linux started.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully will not be the case. Depends on whether buy-in from Heroic, Bottles, and Lutris maintainers have been secured

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Considering the fact that they're already relying on GE's version of wine, I don't see why they wouldn't move on to this when it's stable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t one of the features of bottles etc that you can select different versions of wine on the fly per-app? This sounds like it’s meant to supersede that

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

with extra lettuce please

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is great. Proton is getting a lot of testing just based on Steam's userbase and it is backed by Valve. We also have a lot of data on proton's performance and potential game-specific fixes in the form of protondb. Making sure that non-Steam launchers can use all that work and information is crucial to guaranteeing the long-term health of linux gaming. Otherwise it is easy to imagine a future where proton is doing great but the other launchers are keep running into problems and are eventually abandoned.

One thing that I am curious is how this handles the AppId. If this AppId is used to figure out which game-specific fixes are needed, then it will have to be known. Do we have a tool/database that figures out the AppId from the game you are launching outside of Steam?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

no steam or steam binaries required

The best

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's great news. Praise be the glorious Eggroll!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

He is truly doing the Lord's work!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

I've been waiting a long time for this!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Needs a better name tho. How about Unilaunch?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

United Launch Alliance

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But can we run it on windows

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Given Proton can actually be faster on some windows games, there might be a legitimate use case for this.

It would also be useful for developers to use for testing. Low friction access to a Linux runtime environment would make it a lot more reasonable for Devs to support Linux as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

That's mostly down to DXVK, not Proton in general. You can't really translate Windows API calls from Windows to ... Windows. It wouldn't change anything. Running games with Vulkan might though, especially with Intel Arc for example.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

With WSL it might be possible

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile PortProton which did similar thing long time ago :)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

..so did Lutris, Bottles, ZentryWine and like 8 others. That's why we created yet a new program to unify them all!

(To be fair, I like the fact we have choices, and hope this project takes off, but yea..)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

respect 🫡

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