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[–] 204 points 3 years ago (10 children)

It's technically not a visa but an electronic travel authorization much like the US and Canada have.

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  • [–] 78 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    I love Americans freaking out about being subjected to the same shit they force all others to go through.

    Americans have no idea how border checks work. Remember that next time they share opinions about immigration.

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  • [–] 72 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    Exactly - the title and the article is incorrect. Americans will still be afforded a visa-on-arrival for tourism and other approved short term stays. Additionally, the authorization is valid for three years and can be used for multiple stays within the EEA. I believe the UK is also implementing an ETA (edit, maybe I got the acronym right this time), but I think it is only valid for two years at a time.

    In a way it's silly, but it also reduces that chance of a disruption/entry denial at the entry point to the Area.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago

    I think a key benefit here is that the pre-registration allows for faster processing at the border itself, cutting down on queues at the airport. Singapore runs a system where after preregistration you can just walk through an automated (though somewhat finicky) scanner. No queues after arrival, I basically stepped off the international flight and went straight to the city with barely a wait.

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  • [–] 96 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Because "including Spain, France and Greece" is a rather lacking description for 30 European countries:

    Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland

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    [–] 74 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    No. They'll need to fill out a form online before they go. Europe is only requiring this because the US has forced similar bullshit on Europeans for years cos "terrorism".

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    Even domestically, Americans hate this crap. No one likes the TSA. No one thinks they do a goddamned thing. It's a massive invasion of privacy and a huge waste of money. And then we have this "Real ID" thing looming over us just to get on an airplane (again, for a domestic flight only).

    You'd think we could unite against such a simple common enemy but apparently no one has the time. I guess politicians are worried about a sudden glut of unemployed TSA workers who's only job skills are identifying the water bottle I forgot in my bag.

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    [–] 69 points 3 years ago

    Well we've been paying the ESTA electronic visa for years now every time we've wanted to visit the US. It's fair game to require the same

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  • [–] 56 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Saw people freaking out on FB about this and how “I guess Europe doesn’t want tourism!” I don’t think $8 is going to be a barrier for entry on a $1000 flight…

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  • [–] 51 points 3 years ago* (16 children)

    $8, don't break the bank on this one folks.

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  • [–] 61 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    The visa, which will cost about $8, is similar to the one that European tourists are required to get when traveling to the U.S., which costs $21.

    That's quite the difference.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    We love to overcharge on everything.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Hospitals have entered the chat

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Presumably the devil is in the hassle entailed in acquiring it, rather than the monetary price. ie a cost of time and effort rather than money

    Edit: also the entailed risk of not being approved, lack of transparency for any denials, etc

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  • [–] 50 points 3 years ago (9 children)
    1. It's not a visa but an ESTA. The visa is still granted on the fly on entry.
    2. The U.S. require the same the other way around, only the one granted by the EU is $10 cheaper and valid for 3 years instead of 2, so still U.S. citizens get an advantage
    3. EU citizens (like all other non-immigrants) have to, as far as I understand, disclose all their social media accounts when applying for a US visa

    Sources for (3):

    For VISA applications, https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Enhanced%20Vetting/CA%20-%20FAQs%20on%20Social%20Media%20Collection%20-%206-4-2019%20(v.2).pdf should apply.

    What if applicants participate in multiple online platforms? Are they being asked to list all of their handles, or only one?

    Applicants must provide all identifiers used for all listed platforms.

    I reached that document via https://www.ustraveldocs.com/de/de-gen-faq.asp#qlistgen21 ("Apply for a U.S. Visa in Germany") and didn't find any hint for exemptions for German citizens or E U citizens, so I assume it applies. (But I might still be wrong.)

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    Genuine question, how the heck do people who have a ton of social media accounts (some for a business, some for different topics, some they haven't used in ages and maybe forgot about or lost the login for) actually list them all? If it were me, depending on the platforms required, I don't even know where I'd begin. I very well might genuinely forget one I made 3 years ago, used for a month, and abandoned.

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    [–] 48 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The visa, which will cost about $8, is similar to the one that European tourists are required to get when traveling to the U.S., which costs $21.

    A very typical tit-for-tat.

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    [–] 44 points 3 years ago

    *Everyone from a visa free country will need an electronic authorization, not just US-Americans

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  • [–] 35 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Wait, this wasnt the case yet?!

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    That's what I was thinking. I never knew that we didn't need a visa. Lol

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago* (10 children)

    We do need one, but Americans, as well as many other friendly countries, have what is called "Visa on Arrival" which means that you are automatically afforded a Tourist visa just for the asking and you can get it when you arrive at the country. It's easy for Americans, who hold one of the strongest passports in the world, to forget that that visa process for many people can be a long and expensive one, even for something as seemingly mundane as tourism.

    This basically adds a "pre-authorization" step once every 3 years to make sure you're not an axe murderer or fall into any other ne'er-do-well category so they don't have to watch you pitch a fit at immigration when you get denied entry.

    Edit: I'll add that I pay $100 every five years (Global Entry) so that I can get back into the US on my return flight with as little friction as possible.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, that scratches the inflated image of the US citizens. But why...idk

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

    I'm guessing because of migration. More USA citizens want to leave the US and overstay in the EU. This way its a bit more tedious and easier to track.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    Seems like it's more so covering the costs of doing automated background checks or something like that. Like making sure you aren't on any bad lists so they can prevent you from arriving instead of having to deal with you when you're already there.

    It's not technically a visa, Americans are still granted that upon arrival it seems.

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    [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    TIL: Americans didn't need a visa before

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