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Tesla recalls 120,000 vehicles over potentially faulty doors that could open in a crash::Tesla is recalling Tesla Model S luxury sedans and Model X SUVs manufactured in 2022 and 2023 due to the vehicles’ failure to comply with U.S. government regulations.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Everyone driving a Tesla: "I'm so important and successful, look at all the peasants turning green with envy". Peasants: "You couldn't pay me to be a test crash dummy in one of daddy Elon's death mobiles."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the only reason I keep looking at their Tesla is so I am prepared to dodge it when it goes Kill All Humans mode.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Nah, that's a paid upgrade. Default on the poverty-spec models is Kill All Children

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

It’s kind of wild my opinion of Tesla in 2016 vs now. They went from this super cool car company to a really expensive unpolished turd. I figured at the time they would fix their quality issues as they are a new car company figuring things out. Legit worst quality cars on the market. About one step up from 80 GM Fremont Assembly with beer cans in the doors. Toyota help fix those issues in quality but Tesla has not figured it out and it’s funny it’s the same plant. Riven seems to be making a decent truck right now along with Lucid as new players in the market. Then add in the Elon factor. Had he kept his mouth shut he could have been remembered really well. Now you could not pay me to own any of products

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I'm a solid thousandaire who bought a used Model 3 in 2019. I'm one of those fuck cars people, but living without one is not currently possible for me, so I went with one with a high safety rating, low maintenance, and no need for gas. Since then, I've bought one set of tires, refilled the windshield wiper fluid, and had a few car washes. It's been pretty great, as a car.

The only problem is... random pickup trucks and Dodge Chargers act crazy around me because the existence of EVs apparently threatens their masculinity. My mom sends me random articles where someone who has no idea what they're talking about complains about the car being a death trap. And now that Elon Musk won't shut the fuck up, I get to read the random ramblings of petulant children online who can't fathom that people might like something they don't.

Fuck me, though, I guess I'm a member of the bourgeoisie now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It’s kind of wild my opinion of Tesla in 2016 vs now. They went from this super cool car company to a really expensive unpolished turd. I figured at the time they would fix their quality issues as they are a new car company figuring things out. Legit worst quality cars on the market. About one step up from 80 GM Fremont Assembly with beer cans in the doors. Toyota help fix those issues in quality but Tesla has not figured it out and it’s funny it’s the same plant. Riven seems to be making a decent truck right now along with Lucid as new players in the market. Then add in the Elon factor. Had he kept his mouth shut he could have been remembered really well. Now you could not pay me to own any of products

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Technically its a recall, but it's really a software update that all owners will receive without doing anything special. I'm not a fan of Tesla by any means, but let's not sharpen the pitchforks just yet.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

Even ignoring bizarre stuff like this, it's priced like a Jaguar and has the build quality of a Yugo. I say keep sharpening.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Well, I wouldn't buy one...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And the 0-60 of a Koenigsegg at 1/20 the price, but also electric and potentially economical to drive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

0-60 of race car is the last thing a normal driver needs from a car. If you'll come up with a made up scenario where you have to floor it to save your life I will scream.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

A Koeniggsegg handles much better and is well-built, though. It's meant for the track and it does that well.

In contrast, a Tesla Model S is an unnecessarily quick and overpriced family car with a dubious safety record due in part to having the build quality of a Yugo.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just because the recall is an over the air fix, doesn't make it less serious. Which is probably why it's called a recall.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think what makes it a recall is that the NHTSA points out a fault and requires the manufacturer to fix it. It just happens that Tesla has the ability to use OTA updates. So not sure there is a difference in severity just because a fix is software.

But it does raise the question for me if it’s a simple software fix why did Tesla wait for the NHTSA? Don’t they have tons of live diagnostic data from their cars?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

...Yeah, but who looks at that rubbish? - an engineer

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

"...let's not sharpen the pitchforks just yet" this is like the 845th domino that's fallen? You're not a serious person.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

It's kinda scary that cars are no different now than software these days with all this "agile development"

Code it. "it's stable!". Don't do much testing. Bug reports come in. Fix.

All sounds like beta software to me. Just what I want to put my life in the hands of.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I can’t wait for the NHTSB’s verdict on the Cybertruck.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Am much more scared about those that don't open when you get in a crash. Which is all of them in case of losing power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They all have manual, non-motorized releases. All of them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No. Even the rear ones. The manual for some of them (some Model 3’s, for example) says that there are only manual release switches for the front, which is true, but some people confuse that for the rear not having a manual release at all. There’s a cable that you pull that’s under the liner in the rear doors. The higher-end models have dedicated buttons in the rear.

Edit: I checked YouTube to post a video of how the cable release works and found that some Model 3’s do not have the removable liner where the release cable is. They may not all have them which means that my answer is wrong in a few cases.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

A security feature should never be hidden away though. Someone getting a lift might not know it's there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Totally agree this is like an escape room you didn’t sign up for. “Please solve the following clues to open door”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I agree wholeheartedly. That wasn’t what was asked or said, though. The statement was that the rear doors don’t have a release. They do. End of story.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hold on, shouldn't doors open in a crash? Isn't them not opening a major problem when you're trying to escape?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Once the crash is finished, sure. But mid crash the door opening could lead to leaving the vehicle unintentionally.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if the car is unbuckling you too, it means that it knows you're safer out of the Tesla!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You don't want the doors to open while crashing, you want them to open when emergency gets there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aaah, sorry, misunderstood that. 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's all cool. 👍🏾

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

And emergency crews carry the tool to cut them open if needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


As a remedy, Tesla is releasing an over-the-air (OTA) software update free of charge.

Last week, Tesla announced a recall for nearly all its U.S. vehicles — some 2 million — due to concerns about the safety of its autopilot driver-assistance feature.

A federal investigation found that its autosteer function may have led some drivers to abandon responsibility for the operation of their vehicles.

That recall came after one in February affecting more than 360,000 vehicles related to Tesla's “full self-driving” software.

In a post last week on X, formerly known as Twitter, Tesla issued a statement accusing some news outlets of misconstruing "the nature of our safety systems," adding that "incontrovertible data" shows Tesla's features are "saving lives and preventing injury."

A NHTSA spokesperson told NBC News last week that its investigation into Tesla's autopilot features “remains open as we monitor the efficacy of Tesla’s remedies and continue to work with the automaker to ensure the highest level of safety.”


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Dang, I’ll try to avoid crashing until after the update is installed.

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