we live in hell

I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] 373 points 2 years ago (66 children)

Protip: Do not connect your TV to the Internet.

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  • [–] 132 points 2 years ago (40 children)

    I ended up giving up and just putting a Linux PC attached to my TV as a media center. I host plex on it.

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    [–] 237 points 2 years ago (43 children)

    What brand? so I know NOT to buy it

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    [–] 227 points 2 years ago (44 children)

    See the problem is that you let a display device connect to the internet

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  • [–] 112 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    Connected a Samsung smart TV to my network when we first got it. The thing damn-near crashed my pi-hole asking for so many ad/tracking domains. Factory reset it later that same day. I think my % of requests blocked went from 15% to 68% in just the 3 hours or so the Smart TV was connected.

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    They started to wisen up and hard-coded dns requests to 8.8.8.8 to bypass dns ad blockers now. Heck, some apps like Netflix already do it for years now. If your router can transparently redirect all dns requests to your pi-hole, you should use that feature.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    So they recognize that the owner of the product is trying to prevent them from collecting data, and actively try to circumvent the owner's security measures? This shit should be illegal, and carry a huge fine. You paid for the device, and it's connected to your network, which you control. I'm sick and tired of corporations thinking it's totally okay to be straight-up spyware and adware. Some supposedly legitimate companies these days make old-school computer viruses look down right respectful.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    Yep - this. I absolutely abhor "smart" TVs for just this reason.

    But, even lack of internet sometimes isn't enough. I recently, and inadvertently, left the wireless adapter on my TV enabled, after having to temporarily join it to my wireless for a firmware update (digital TV tuning needed updating for my region). After I was done, I cleared the wireless config, but I didn't think to go into the other menu where you can entirely disable the wireless adapter.

    Little did I realise that meant the TV started broadcasting its own SSID, for friggin' Apple Airplay or some other shit. I found this out when my 9yo daughter was suddenly exposed to some adult content for about 10 seconds. Best guess is a nearby neighbour mistook my TV for theirs.

    I've obviously disabled the wireless adapter again, but this has been a terribly difficult lesson I've had to learn.

    For anyone concerned, my daughter is OK. My wife had a good chat with her about it. She had considerably more talking down to do with me - I was ready to start knocking on doors, to have my own chat.

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    [–] 168 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Anytime you see the word "smart" in the name of the product, remember to mentally replace the word "smart" with "tracking".

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    [–] 160 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    This is called Automatic Content Recognition and it can be disabled in the settings, highly recommend doing that. It should have asked you whether you wanted it enabled when you set up the TV, as it's legally required to be opt-in in the US opposed to opt-out. Since you're using a Roku Smart TV, it specifically is taking two full resolution "video snapshots" every second.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "To disable ACR on a Roku TV, the privacy policy says to "visit your Roku TV's Settings menu (Settings > Privacy > Smart TV Experience) and de-select 'Use Info from TV Inputs."

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    [–] 137 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    They’re taking pictures of what you’re watching on the screen and sending it to random 3rd party data collectors to analyze and then harass you with ads.

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    [–] 121 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    This is why my TV does not have internet access.

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    [–] 105 points 2 years ago (39 children)

    Even if you must own a smart TV (because it's impossible to buy a large-ish TV anymore that isn't), I see no reason to actually connect it to any network. But! I notice recent models will bitch at you on every single power on if you leave them disconnected. So you're not even safe from being annoyed then.

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    [–] 78 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    And this is why we buy dumb TVs

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Dumb tv with the latest panel tech is too much to ask for these days too.

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago

    Now that is some serious privacy invading.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You like this episode of Futurama. Would you also like to watch this episode of Futurama?

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    We need a Lemmy community dedicated to find, repair and exchange dumb TV. These are become increasingly rare and increasingly needed.

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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    The comments suggesting the system sends 2 screenshots a second is truly worrying.

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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago

    on my TV

    good joke

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  • [–] 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    On your Roku TV go to Settings > Privacy > Select Smart TV Experience and disable "Use Info from TV Inputs"

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (40 children)

    The SMART thing to do is to buy a DUMB TV. Pay a little more and get a real TV- you know. A display, with speakers and HDMI inputs. Nothing else.

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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago

    Drink verification can, peasant.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Disable ACR on your TV. There was a news report that came out last week about this very thing.

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    And this concludes the enshitification of everything.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Hey! How dare you only pay once for a lifetime of viewing, you should be paying monthly... No daily, for the right to view pieces of cultural history.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago

    Turn off Smart TV experience on your Roku.

    Disable Roku Snooping

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    It’s called “Post-Purchase Monetization”, and it’s why your 65” OLED tv is so cheap. They capture and sell your viewing data - but only if you hook it up to an internet connection. So don’t hook them up to an internet connection.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I have two TVs. One is 15 years old, the other is so old that, even though it is still HD (only 720p but it's fine for me) it still has component video.

    I will use those TVs until they die and not buy a new one unless I have no choice. I haven't seen a single feature on a "smart" TV that I want and a lot that I don't.

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