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If anything, cannabis seems like a much better (and more profitable) drug around which to build a leisurely establishment.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that's just a "coffee" shop in Netherlands

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dutch coffee shops, you mean?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s already a reality in some places. San Francisco, New York, and Amsterdam are some examples.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Add Spain to the list.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Some medical dispensaries even had this vibe years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The difference is you can't taste other people's alcohol but you can smell others' smoke

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People who are going to a place to smoke typically wouldn’t mind that. Take cigar or vape lounges, for instance. Also it’s usually people who don’t smoke weed who act like the smell of weed bothers them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

right but my point is if a group of friends want to go to a bar and some people don't smoke or like the smell of smoke then there is a problem, it's not like they can just opt not to smell smoke

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Then don’t go to a weed bar, I guess. Laws are unlikely to allow weed and alcohol in the same place any time soon… though that already happens illegally at concerts and many bars I’ve been to. But people at the bars usually smoke outside. Colorado gov’t acts like all hell would break loose if people smoke and drink at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

...that's why you would only go to a place like that if everyone is down. Having them for people that want to go is fine, no one is forced to go.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

and drunk people can be annoying and it is hard to opt out of being around them at the bar

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can certainly smell other people's alcohol. Most pubs reek of cheap beer

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dry vaporizers (with temperature below 200C) don't have smoke so are a lot less offensive with smell, if not odorless particularly with access to fresh air.

Also people smelling of alcohol, particularly if they are drunk or drinking liquor, is definitely a thing. Also barfing. I wouldn't doubt bars having bad smells sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the shameless plug opportunity for m/dryherbvapes!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep that's the 21st Century way to party. Smoking tastes almost disgusting after making the switch.

Bars could have bar-top vape systems and you could bring your own plant materials or buy there, but you would probably have to buy a disposable nozzle for the vape systems. Each patron could use a clean disposable tip for their visit to minimize germs.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

there are THC drinks where I live, always a nice option for me to have at gatherings as a non-alcohol person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Edibles might make it better. But then you'll need to give people something to do for an hour or so before it kicks in...

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

California has a few of these and they’re awesome! Ive seen them in Humboldt county and LA

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

More friendly environment w/dry vaporizers (bag, whip, or portable/extract) so there's no smoke (and note the lack of lasting/scented steam clouds that people hate about flavored vape pens). Also edibles and the like... but that just time-delay dosed food.

I would say that drinking is a longer/more gradual experience so has more reason for a dedicated space. Though I guess the passable options that I mentioned could draw the experience out, but I've never done that so I'm not sure what that's like compared to one-and-done/hanging-out-when-high.

(though as others have said, it is a thing)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we have cannabis lounges where I live. it's mostly for tourists that cannot consume in their hotel rooms. no outside products allowed, a menu is provided along with rigs, vaporizers, bongs, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I like to get and be high alone though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've always thought this too. It's so crazy how acceptable alcohol use is compared to cannabis use when it comes to socializing for things like work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Lol, they'd have the busiest kitchen in town.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The issue is that a lot of people that smoke weed in place would reak. I don't think many people would enjoy the smell

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Speaking as a smoker: it's a great idea until someone manages to start a fire (or deliberately sets one.) Also smoky interiors get uncleanably grimy FAST.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your dealers home: Am I a joke to you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dealer? What's a dealer? Is that something I'm too Canadian to understand?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the guy with weed 30-40% less expensive than the guv'mint stores that also happens to be better quality 9/10 times.

(I kid to a point - I use dispensaries too, because what's not to like about picking up weed AND milk on a mini-mall grocery run - but seriously the market value for unregulated weed has plummeted something fierce since legalization. And what I've tried is pretty damn good).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A bar near me has a few cocktails that use 5mg delta9 THC instead of alcohol.

All of their alcoholic drinks can also be upgraded with 5mg thc for a few bucks more.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I went to one in Thailand. Got to borrow a bong and play billiards and Uno and stuff, it was a real nice and comfortable little place

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is quite common in The Netherlands. They're called coffeeshops.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I do hope it becomes more socially acceptable to be high in places you can be drunk, but I think the smoking aspect is always going to be an obstacle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are a number of coffee shops exactly like that in Cape Town

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is a great way to make a 30 minute game into a two hour game. Source: years and years of trying it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its hard to justify it for the same reasons we can't have Shisha bars and smoking lounges (at least where I live): 2nd hand smoke.

I can, as a non drinker, go to a bar and have myself a soda, and leave there as sober as when I walked in. If I do that in a room where everyone is smoking up, I will get high from the second hand smoke whether I want to for not.

I mean, why not just have a general social club with coffee/food, games, etc, and just step outside for a puff?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Cannabis can be edible and here in Milwaukee we're already seeing farm bill delta9 show up in bars and restaurants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The smoke issue has been solved. I've been to cigar lounges that do not smell outside and barely smell inside, despite over a dozen people smoking sotgies in there. Massive HVAC systems and filters handle it all.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it is completely unacceptable to have public places where people go to get intoxicated in a society that practically requires cars.

It should be required that your uber/lyft, or bus/train ticket is prepaid in order to receive any product in these establishments.

This sounds like a great idea in a city center where cars are banned.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If they replaced individual bars rather than expanded the space where drug consumption is the basis of socializing.

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