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Hyundai unveils car tires with built-in, push-button snow chains::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anyone want to bet on this ever shipping?

This smells like something that will only ever exist as a patent for a concept.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

too many delicate, moving, parts at the point, where a several thousand pound object connects to the ground, while creating great force on the tires.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Right?

"Hey, I got an idea, let's add some expensive electronics and moving machinery to the most disposable part of the car."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

"and it will cost like 2000 buck per tyre not include installation because there's only like 1% of the market need these thing."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I mean, it's a cool concept, and I could see it working as something you could turn on to get moving after losing traction in the snow, then turn off. As a replacement for continuous use snow chains though... well you would make the tired several times more expensive, and tires aren't cheap to being with, and they will likely fail before the winter is done with.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

So literally this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afofc_Jt86s

edit: gif form (does lemmy support gifs?)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Growing up in the 80s was amazing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yup. I had that one. It was awesome. Only disappointment was that it wasn't RC.

edit: also isn't Galoob such an AliExpress-ass name for a toy company? Can't you imagine "GALOOB Harrys Potters Wand Gyro Children Luminous Rotating Gun Parents and Children Outdoor Battles Boys Light Toys" next to the lead-painted dildos and self-destructing flash-drives?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

An 80s reference about self-deploying tire chains, and it somehow isn't Speed Racer? Amazing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Still never buying a Hyundai or Kia ever again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Right?

The car could transform into Voltron for all I care.

How they treated people in the past few years, ignoring their shitty security practices and gaslighting customers for getting their car stolen for their bad engineering until the fucking government had to step in? What a joke.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wanna go into a big more detail?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also they were HORRIFICALLY unreliable, to the point where my mechanic's actual quote was "Folks, I'm not in the habit of talking myself out of a $10,000 paycheck, but this car is not worth it." 30 minutes before we walked in his door it was working fine, by the time he went to drive it to the bay it wouldn't start, and never did again.

It wasn't even paid off yet.

To say nothing of the fact that one had to drop the engine to get to the alternator, the electrical blew itself out twice in the 4 years we owned it, very few of the features worked with any competence, and we just got our 3rd or 4th safety recall for it (or whatever is left of the parts at the scrapyard).

Consumer Reports rated its reliability as a six - not out of ten, but out of ONE HUNDRED.

Absolute lemons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Mine and my roommate's Hyundais were stolen. His was stolen by a child. We know this because the high schooler that stole my roommate's car kept parking it randomly around the neighborhood because he obviously couldn't bring it home to his parents and parked the car directly in front of our house (he stole it from a train stop so didn't know). We caught the kid when he came back for it. The kid was 16.

Mine was stolen and then used in 3+ more hijackings involving a gun according to the FBI agent assigned to my case.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Easy to steal them I think.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Only in the US and only extremely cheap versions of models. Other countries have mandatory immobilizer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Easy to go them too

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kind of reminds me of the old monster truck toy with claws that extended from the tires.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Nothing can stop… THE ANIMAL!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gonna be hella expensive changing them if you get a flat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm just waiting form the Michelin Uptis to hit the market

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

https://youtu.be/aEMT7D7O-ts?si=MyumL8L9C9Mmxv3w

I think this sort of system is better and cheaper. Also has been around for a long time. Now you know what those hanging chains are used for on buses and fire trucks near the wheels

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe for large commercial vehicles, but I don’t want my little sedan rattling around like Jacob Marley after the roads have been cleared.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Yea, if you frequently need chains, but not all the time (say for ice), there's the spider style. It uses a hub that bolts onto your lugnuts, and the gripper is like a hubcap that latches into the hub putting plastic fingers with studs over the tires.

Then there's the mash material type - the tire sock. Postal service delivery vehicles use them in town. They don't damage the road. Pretty easy to put on, easy to stow.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hyundai looks like they are innovating these days. This is pretty cool and they have that CV drive shaft replacement tech they are pushing as well. Maybe they are just better at getting the word out but it looks like they are making more progress currently than other makers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you're talking about the portal hub posted recently, that's tech going back to WWI, and still requires either CV or universal joints (depending on the speed of the shaft). Putting gears in the hub just adds weight. They work fine for off-road vehicles that move slowly, it provides additional clearance. It also offers the opportunity to reduce rotational speeds of the drive shafts (typically by ~66%), enabling the use of u-joints instead of CV joints (which are always required because of suspension travel).

Hyundai costs less than others for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah that was the post I was talking about. Their big claim was that the combination of an electric motor close to the hub and the in-hub gears is the key to it all. To your point though, I won’t purchase the first few years of cars that have that as I am sure there will be initial issues that they need to work out. I’m just excited that there are some new approaches being pushed. I got super excited 20 years ago for rotary engines from Mazda and that never took off the way I thought it would. I figured those would be the basis for electric hybrids so what do I know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yawn. Still won't make me by one.