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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

I hope that happens.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Since Ariel Sharon, conservative ideologies have been deeply ingrained in Israeli politics, and Netanyahu's resignation may not bring about a fundamental shift in this longstanding trend.

The political landscape has been characterized by continuity, and despite changes in leadership, the core ideologies often persist. The implications for the lives of Israelis and Palestinians might not undergo a substantial transformation.

Obligatory: Fuck Hamas and Netanyahu

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

That's true, but honestly anybody is better than Netanyahu. This guy is the reason the conflict didn't end in the 90s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hamas did nothing wrong. It exists in response to Israeli aggression. I promise you this, even if Hamas goes away, Palestinians and other Arabs will continue to resist. Israel has created far more enemies with its ongoing genocide in Gaza, they will forever be pariahs and will forever be at war with us.

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

These protest have been going on for years.
The idea that Israelis generally support him is part of his media narrative, not reality.
The fact that the protests were getting bigger and louder before 7.10 is another reason war was allowed to happen (it keeps people distracted and united against an enemy that isn't him, and the results are instant - many already saying to wait with holding him accountable until "after the war" as if he wouldn't start another or make this one last until he made sure he couldn't be removed).
When he went to visit the front lines, he didn't only refuse to meat, but expelled reservists who were called in to duty who were known to be at protests or signed letters against him.
They have now also made it legal to shoot protestors with live ammo and arrest anyone suspected of "interfering with military operation" (this is mostly to target Palestinians and Arab-Israelis, but also Jewish protestors)
The Israeli government doesn't represent the Israeli people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

They should all go, not just Netanyahu. Palestine is for Palestinians.