Classic. Same energy as the woman who voted for trunp because he wanted to kick out all illegals…..only the catch was her husband and father of their children was ….Checks notes …. iLLegAL iMMiGraNT from Mexico. Dude got picked up by ICE, got deported, and woman was left with all the kids and a solid pikachu face.
I remember that- classic.
Honest Q: aren't you a citizen when you marry in?
No you have to apply for a green card and there are specific requirements.
It's also extraordinarily expensive
How much are we talking about? You see on TV shows that many are eager to do it.
If you don't use a lawyer, pro se can cost between 2k and 3k for the fees. Going through the process for my mother in law currently.
So much cheaper than the UK.
It’s something like £2k ($2,500) for the fees (for 2.5-3years, depending on visa type), plus a buy in for NHS services, approximately £1k/year ($1,300 x 2.5-3) for the length of your visa.
6 years to become a citizen, if you’re not married to a Brit, or 5 if you are.
It is in excess of £10k over the 5-6 years to get to the point of permanent residence (£2,300) which you can then follow up with citizenship (£1,580).
I wish health care was ~$1k/year. That's less than a lot of insurance premiums alone.
True, although paying in upfront doesn’t exempt immigrants from also paying the relevant taxes that cover healthcare, no double taxation protections here.
Correct. Also, I read somewhere that if someone is here illegally and even if they marry a citizen they have to stay out of USA for between 3 - 10 years to be eligible for permanent residency via marriage.
Medicaid expansion has kept my mother alive with cancer 13 years longer than her prognosis.
She’s as diehard MAGA as anyone I’ve seen.
Grandfather had amazing insurance from being in military. Covered his heart surgeries and cancer treatments but would always complain about that damn socialism insurance.
Kinda funny because it's very predatory capitalist
Tell her to stop being a leech on public resources if she thinks others shouldn't get them too.
The level of stupid is truly remarkable.
GOP's effort to dismantle the education system over the last 40 years would be an award winning effort if it wasn't so damn tragic.
Surely the realization would make her stop voting for tru… oh never mind, I give in.
If you know of a way to deprogram and educate 74 million people in eleven months, now would be the time to let us know.
I've thought about this more than you care to know.
Brutal reality: Uncensored images of maimed elementary kids bodies projected into Sunday church across the nation.
I don't have the solution but I know what problem we need to overcome is: (1) breaking into echo-chambers, and (2) delivering a credible enough message.
Fascism festers in areas of ignorance. Low education, low critical-thinking skills, etc. That's the conservative way. All of the money Democrats earn must go to these PSAs to discuss basics of critical-thinking and historical events. People are ignorant to history and inside their little bubbles will never otherwise. As people are spammed with basic information about civics, perhaps some things will finally click.
I think about what flipped my rural Appalachia blue collar religious pro-life gun-toting family. It was a perfect storm of the wild west of the internet, my dad having a flashback to his hippy days when Bush invaded Iraq, and my mom realizing the religious history books were bullshit.
Most of these people taking the bait are uninformed and desperate for excitement in their dull lives. Best bet is flipping it on its head and telling them they're being duped and it's a conspiracy to control THEM.
Nobody. Nobody changes overnight. No single fact will change a person. It has to be a relentless exposure to reality until they decide to come out from Plato's Cave and see the light.
Thanks for taking the time to write this all out. It's inspirational. A good start to a kind of déprogramming playbook.
I’ve been secretly sitting on such a plan until the right time. If only….
Forced labour camps?/s
Hey, no spoilers for the next season of Trump 2024!
On one hand you're alive because of a policy, on the other hand is pure shit. Such decisions were never designed to be made by mortals.
It's almost like it takes a lot of deception to get them to vote that way.
The only true answer to this is to find a swingset glitch and GTFO.
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