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As many seem to have overlooked itb this is from more than a decade ago.

And to those setting "not being toxic" == "being vague":

Suggestion if you're in a situation: separate the subject discussed from the person and, to the contrary to what is said in some other posts, be very specific!

Improvised example:

Hey all,

patch xyzz and its aftermath communication is unacceptable.

It's content is not to the standards we have set here (explain).

Even worse, in the communication aftermath we blamed behavior of user space applications for bugs that are within our domain instead of owning up.

The bugs within the kernel will be focused on with highest priority by a, b and myself.

For the communication: (consequences). As explained the patterns shown here are unacceptable.

I have decided to no longer have x as a kernel maintainer on our team/enforce pairing for all communication/set up stricter consequence catalogue. Any specific action,really...

Not perfect as it's very early here, I haven't slept well and I'm not deep into the topic.

Just remember to separate subject to be discussed from person(s) acting please.

And always remember: bad communication is really easy and a lot of managers trained that their whole life! ♥

I think whoever recieved this would be completely fine to report Linus to HR or something. The fact somebody thought to circulate it is suggestive that it crossed a line. I do appreciate he does seem to really care about the kernel. He could maybe tone down the hysterics a little.

I think if there's a lesson here its "Never hit send while you're angry" always wait until your hormones to subside before sending an email because emails are records and people don't have good judgement while angry, so an email sent in anger is just a record of your poor judgement.

To be read in the voice of J K Simmons

Stuff like this is the reason Linus decided to take a sabbatical back in 2018 to work on controlling his temper.

One does not simply break userspace. You'll receive more than just angry bug reports. There are restless maintainers who will not sleep. And the great corporations are ever watchful.

Yeah, but like...

He's not wrong though.

Fucking Mauro.

I'll be that guy: I miss the old Linus. If I fucked up that badly I'd want to know I had fucked up that badly.

Poor Mauro: they weren't good at what they loved, they blamed others for their failings, and their community leader was nuts.

Jokes aside, we've already got toxic right there. Linus isn't right, but someone like that would be fired with good cause. It's one thing to make a mistake, it's quite another to blame your co-workers for your own shoddy work.

What's that Reddit phrase? ESH!

I miss when people had higher standards.

I would not work with or even for someone with such an attitude, not even for money. Ok, do it yourself, bye. Got better places to be.

How sad to be working on a Sunday and two days out before Christmas.

Wouldn't lift a finger for less than triple time.

In the following responses Mauro was very professional. l haven't heard much about recently but Linus had some high tier anger issues. Most of the cases I was following back then he was right, but desperately needed to cool off.