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[–] 3 points 1 hour ago

The whole "everyone is 12" extends to things like this btw, if voting meant nothing, why is there a constant concerted effort of making voting particularly difficult? Are the politicians bored? Or is there something to a vote we're not seeing that they do? Of course you don't think those things you're 12.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    The revolution is just leftist rapture. It'll have fire and punish the ones who deserve it and it'll happen any day now and when it's done it'll be a utopia and even though people have said it'll happen for hundreds of years it'll happen this lifetime for sure and we can do some things to push for it but just wait it'll happen any day now

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  • [–] 8 points 5 hours ago

    Honestly for all my bloodthist, ya ain't wrong. Fact of the matter is most leftists are either too chickenshit or too insular to do jack for shit. Or they get into petty and stupid squabbles effectively preventing any attempts at outreach, seriously id happily join a group of leftists who can stop fighting about theory for five fucking seconds and do something.

    I'm a Redneck who follows the old ways of being an anti corporate asshole, I really don't care about your Soviet larp let's just set up a communal food pantry you fuckwits. I've never felt more rage than when some yuppie ass twig tried fucking purity testing me via quize.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 hours ago

    Oh boy these comments are gonna be full of wimpy whatabouts here we go 🙏 🪑

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  • [–] 10 points 5 hours ago

    walmarts have insurance, firebomb the CEOs instead

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  • [–] 12 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    If you think voting is useless, I gotta ask then why do so many politicians try to surpress it?

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  • [–] 13 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

    Firebombing a single building does nothing. You need coordinated violence with a massive group of people. Things that many tend to write off as "riots" like the 2020 BLM protests. My problem is never with voting, but it's with people who tell everyone to use every tool and refuse to use political violence. Why is it ok to refuse to use 1 tool, but not the other? Both are completely necessary to achieve the end goal desired. We should be seeing more Luigis and Tyler Robinsons at the very least every month instead of telling everyone that peaceful protests and a bit of community outreach is the only things worth doing outside of election time.

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    [–] 27 points 9 hours ago* (4 children)

    i regularly get flamed by asking my fellow so-called (internet) leftists one piercing question: "how?" i've been called a nazi, maga, etc. because i want people to actually consider how they would go about implementing their big ideas.

    it's great to have big endgame ideas, it's important to have a direction. but if all you have are the big endgame ideas and nothing else, you are simply not a serious person and you have a lot of political literacy you need to work on. being terminally online and jockeying with nothing but ideas is not praxis, it's not even theory. it's just attention whoring for updoots and likes.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 hours ago

    Reading this reminded me of a quote. I unfortunately can't remember for the life of me who said this, but it was something to the effect of: "I appreciate many leftist ideas. But, in my experience, if your only acceptable outcome is 'utopia', and your only acceptable timeline is 'immediately', then things aren't likely to go your way."

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    [–] 29 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

    Had a very long argument on here with some "leftist" several months back where they were trying to argue voting does nothing and makes you complicit with the genocide in Gaza, but during the argument they conceded that republicans had a much more extreme on Gaza as well as were doing worse things to citizens than any democrat, and that voting doesn't stop you from doing any other kind of activists, but they still just doubled down on "voting bad"

    Genuinely insane

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  • [–] 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

    They boil down to:

    1. Paid trolls
    2. Genuinely mentally ill people whose decision making centers are broken

    Either way the solution is not to engage with them in anyway. You will not convince them to be reasonable and your energy is better spent elsewhere.

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  • [–] 36 points 11 hours ago* (1 child)

    I was banned from a certain "leftist" sub for arguing it's stupid to dismiss voting or dislike voting instead of whatever-else because election outcomes have very practical consequences for a lot of people in the here and now and you might need to start looking at Plan B's in the event your systemic revolution that gets rid of the US government and allows you to rebuild– a messy process that you've not elaborated on– doesn't happen.

    Far as I'm concerned, it's proof some leftists are just as dumb and easily mislead as ultra conservatives; your rhetoric is indistinguishable from anti-voting memes that came right out of a Russian bot farm.

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  • [–] 57 points 14 hours ago (14 children)

    "Both sides are the same, you shouldn't bother voting"

    The bad guys win, things get worse

    "See? I was right!"

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    [–] 30 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

    You can do both. It's not like voting voids some firebombing permit you never had anyway. Just mind the timing, because firebombing might end up barring you from voting.

    Also, please don't firebomb Walmart. You'd just hurt other victims of the systemic evil. The people who are to blame don't shop there.

    Unrelatedly, I hear there's a killer recipe for flame-grilled parasite...

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    [–] 217 points 17 hours ago (23 children)

    It's also funny how they pretend that the two actions are mutually exclusive, as if the rules of the universe won't allow you to firebomb Walmarts the minute you cast a vote. It's almost like discouraging people from voting is the actual purpose.

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  • [–] 83 points 16 hours ago* (19 children)

    This is it. You can do harm reduction in voting for the least-worst feasible candidate, while organising/protesting on issues you disagree with them on.

    E.g. In the UK, Labour is often poor on queer rights issues, but comparatively massively better than the tories/reform would be, not to mention economic and welfare policies. So I vote Labour, and attend pro-trans rights protests and criticise Labour and their stance on this issue.

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