ABOOT would be a fun name for a Linux distro
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Ethereal whisper in the wind : "Liiiinuuuux..."
I'm really glad that a lot of countries are starting to do this 🥰
I’ll probably take shit for my comment, so preface: I use FOSS and self-host a lot of stuff at home, my Elbows are Up, and Fuck M$. Now then…
Yeah, the federal government could give up MS licenses for the public service and switch to OpenBSD or Linux and use LibreOffice. Excellent! Big savings.
Now then, how about all the ancient databases and applications used by the CRA and regulatory agencies. Will they keep working or will they need attention? Downtime is not an option.
Then there’s weird things like lab equipment and remote devices that provide earth sensing data for weather forecasts and probably tsunami warning for all I know.
Every one of those things needs, at least, thorough consideration and many will need specific attention from developers who are familiar with some pretty old tech. The public service does not have that capacity on hand. Contracting (expensive) private sector companies is a given.
I haven’t even mentioned the requirements for handling protected data or liability. Who does the government sue for damages if there’s an unpatched exploit in OpenBSD?
Anyway, all the above can be addressed. Nothing’s impossible. But the estimated cost-savings are not realistic. Like, at all.
You may now tear me to shreds.
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Why would that be point or needed?
Linux is right there, no need to reinvent the wheel.
Libre Office to replace most of Microsoft 365 suite.
Pick a distro and help develop it to make it more robust.
#CanadArch
Just.....use....linux!?
And make their own distro. No need to build something from scratch! For fucks sake!
But then how else will they be able pay Accenture $10 million to vibe code something that's a piece of shit that doesn't work?
Why make their own distro? Just use fucking Ubuntu or Red Hat or Suse. You don't need HeyDereHiDereHoDereOS.
Why make their own distro?
Because the Canadian government needs to make a simple solution as shitty as possible and hire hundreds of consultants to insure it will never work. They never got Phoenix Pay working.
I mean, I've seen a lot of noise by Canada and Europe about how they need to distance themselves from the United States, meanwhile if you look at the world's top visited websites, more than half of them are US based, from major search engines like Google to AI stuff like Gemini and ChatGPT to marketplaces like Amazon and eBay to social media like Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn to video media hosting like Netflix, Youtube and Twitch. Canada has one entry: Pornhub. EU countries have two: XVideos in France and XHamster in Cypress.
"Switching to our own operating system" means switching from an American corporation, to some American non-profit foundations. Trading Microsoft for GNU/Linux. Still running on Intel x86 architecture machines. Don't get me wrong, the attempt is adorable, but you're four decades behind in a four decade old discipline.
Because you want a an OS optimised for the needs of public administration. It doesn't need to be a new Distro but it should be a tailored configusration, just lije thf Duch are doing right now based on NixOS.
Which is exactly what they would do if they were to switch. Starting from scratch would be incredibly stupid, and there's no reasonable way to secure a brand new system when we simply don't employ enough programmers of that kind at the govt level.
Again what I've been saying for years, just use Linux, people.
But nooooo, Canadian healthcare prefers tonstore their patient data in the USA on servers of Microsoft, even though MS already testified that the US government can access that data whenever they want, so yay!
Why self host everything and be responsible if you can simply pay a dictatorship?
Or, wait, use another already existing one?!!
Or, wait, use another already existing one?!!
Which is exactly what an increasing number of EU countries are doing.
The article is suggesting to make a debian-based distro
BeaverOS
Author of the article missed the Netherlands going to NixOS by a week.
And Canada already has a homegrown operating system that's just waiting for someone to read the handbook thoroughly, read the manual, install it themselves, and see what's up. Canada has already played host to a free operating system with OpenBSD thanks to crypto being a munition back in the 90s and there's no reason to not look at both Nix and OpenBSD if they're going to head down that road.
I'll go ahead and write the international treaty:
Canada and the Netherlands agree to go halfsies on a trusted NixOS and OpenBSD repo.
Wasn't Arch made by a Canadian?
also our own pickup trucks and suvs
Even better, our own small fuel efficient cars. Most people don't need a massive gas guzzler.
We could save even more by crowdsourcing much of it with partners around the world with the same goals.
When Microsoft said they would operate in our country, but not obey our laws, it was the begining of the end.
Yes and nobody seems to acknowledge that. They think data sovereignty is all that matters. But Microsoft has stated no they have to listen to the US no matter what any other countrys laws say. I thought countries would have been more upset about that but nope.
This is good news that more countries are starting to think of tech independence. It was bound to evolve that way over time but the questionable tech bros crowd caused it to happen way more quickly because, just like the railroad barons of the past, they'll lie, cheat, steal and threaten for more money and power and people eventually get tired of being under someone's thumb (holy shit I just had spellcheck tell me that thumb has a "b". I, and probably many others, did not know that).
I said this exact thing to multiple Australian universities and government heads.
Not only would it save money, it would develop local industry and expertise.
No reply of course. No one's interested if it doesn't help make them rich!
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