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[-] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago

I get that redditors love in an echo chamber. But diplomats should be well aware that there's two sides to the story. I seriously do not understand why they continue to insist upon hounding people to condemn Russia. They HAVE to know that the rest of the world is sick to death of their interference. The expectation that the rest of the world would be upset when someone else interfered with the west's interests is just narcissistic beyond belief.

Yet here we are.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

The arrogance didn't stop the, apparently:

While the 27-nation EU wanted the summit to foocus on new economic initiatives and closer cooperation to stave off surging Chinese influence in the region, several leaders of the 33-nation Community of Latin American and Caribbean States brought century-old recriminations over colonialism and slavery to the table.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

Latin American and Caribbean States brought century-old recriminations over colonialism and slavery to the table.

I might be interpreting this incorrectly but this reads as the EU complaining that “century-old” conflicts are being brought up as if they don’t still effect those countries to this day.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

As if neo-colonialism isn't still happening.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I have Kwame Nkrumah’s book on the topic. It should be required reading.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

MFW the people we regime changed don't want to support our regime changes: 😱🤯😵🤬

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here's the frightening reality: today's Redditors are tomorrow's diplomats and leaders of the collective West.

If you think Reddit is an echo chamber then wait until you learn what the various Atlanticist think tanks, foreign policy councils and mainstream media newsrooms are like.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago

This shit I don't get. Europeans are the original imperialists and colonizers, and they continue to act like they're this bastion of humanity with the same exact fucking attitudes that led to the plundering of the Global South.

This y'all "garden", huh?

[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is almost beyond belief... They spent so much time pulling teeth on the Ukraine question that they ran out of time for negotiating a trade deal. In a meeting of nations that happens only once or twice per decade.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago

Let's just say that these people aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's wild how out of touch the EU sounds here. Why would these countries care more about a milquetoast condemnation in a conflict happening across the globe (and that doesn't involve any parties at the summit) than they would care about their own material conditions?

Of course they want slavery and colonialism to be recognized!

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

And then they wonder why everybody hates them.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

Not to mention even this part:

While the 27-nation EU wanted the summit to foocus on new economic initiatives and closer cooperation to stave off surging Chinese influence in the region

So even the non-warmongering part of EU propositions is to completely openly demand that LatAm abandons the important (and growing) trade partner just to remain colonised. LatAm leaders fortunately understood that, since right after that we have:

several leaders of the 33-nation Community of Latin American and Caribbean States brought century-old recriminations over colonialism and slavery to the table.

What EU and their press dogs didn't even notice is the connection between the two parts, and that the issue is not a "century-old", it's direct response to their propositions.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Holy shit what an infuriating article. Europe has its head so up its ass that it looks like an inverted Ouroboros and yahoo couldn't even put the name "CELAC" in the headline, going instead for "EU-LatAm". Doesn't even mention basic shit like el bloqueo. Anybody have a more in-depth and less europhile source? In Spanish works too.

"Idiots manage to ruin incredibly important meeting of 60 countries to talk about some other country" should be the actual headline. Every day nationalising all European property in LatAm seems like a better idea. Gringo bom é gringo com fome.

Edit: the complaint about the article was not meant as an offence to the poster, just to how bad "white" newspapers portray the same countries their beloved gringolands depend on to exist as if they're just afterthoughts.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Every day nationalising all European property in LatAm seems like a better idea

I mean, even without the "gringo" it would be sensible. Ya know, socialism and all that jazz

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but "socialists" over here are usually like "we gotta do it sensibly" while at this point I'm just along the lines of "close the ports and let them starve". If Europe doesn't get ahold of itself soon all of its resource suppliers are just gonna bail and they'll find out they're still just a glorified peninsula. China values us more and they have triple the European population and a bigger GDP.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

And you know you can actually develop a partnership with China.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

This article is so nakedly imperialist it actually made me shudder

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I mean it's mainstream western media, so par for the course there.

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