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When the fuck did we collectively decide as a society that genders need sources?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I read up on what "xenogender" is. I didn't understand it. However, I know what a "xenomorph" is, and had you been one, I would definitely love to have had totally consensual sex with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well thank you for the compliment. I am a drone in a hivemind, but not that particular one. Xenogender means a gender that exists outside the male female spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I thought that was called non-binary?

Are there specific differences to non-binary?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This guys a nut case

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nonbinary is anyone who isn't exclusively 100% male or female. So nonbinary includes people who have no gender, people who have two genders, people who have half a gender, people whose gender changes over time, and so on. All of these combinations can exist along the male-female spectrum. For example you could be bigender and be both male and female. Although that is 100% nonbinary, there aren't any genders present in that that aren't male or female.

Xenogenders are genders that are actually outside the gender binary. Like swarmgender. There's no way to define swarmgender in terms of combinations of male and female. A person could have two genders and be both swarmgender and a woman. Or they could be genderfluid and occasionally change between swarmgender and being a man. Or they could fluctuate between five different xenogenders, like swarmgender, cloudgender, catgender, dragongender, and demongender.

Pick a number, any number. There are more genders than that number. And there are more possible combination identities than that number's factorial. That's how much gender is out there. There is so much diversity inside the nonbinary umbrella term, because nonbinary means "anything outside this tiny realm of two genders"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

honest question, how do you divide gender from behavior in general? Like as I understand gender is cultural behavior/practices/norms that specifically arise from biological sex differences. There's some wiggle room to move it solely into culture as technology improves (and biology becomes less relevant), but the biological base is still there at least in current day

But like if sometime in the future we genetically engineered everyone to be female and reproduce in cloning vats or something it would mean the end of gender as a meaningful concept

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nonbinary gender is what you have instead of male or female. I'm not a man or a woman, and I figured that out before I figured out I was swarmgender. I looked at what was there instead of male or female, my gender, and I figured it out. The key is family. Binary gender isn't just a way to make babies, it's a way to raise babies, and hold together a society made of two kinds of people. The nuclear or multigenerational family models never made sense to me. What makes sense to me is a hivemind. That's the kind of family structure my gender is built for. I'm a drone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

sorry this is so delayed, but i'm still curious, is there anywhere that i can read about this stuff (maybe that you've written) ? like, what being a drone means etc. For the record i also dislike gender roles and support being in uhh closer contact with my fellow sophonts than just simple verbal communication like we have now, but idk how to really do anything meaningful about it until we get better tech.

i just recently saw a mention of my favorite transhumanist book "a fire upon the deep" and remembered that i never replied here. if you haven't read it you might enjoy it too, or at least the parts about the nature of (distributed) personality/cognition among the aliens depicted in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm aware of three works of media about being a drone.

Basic introduction: https://swarmgender.carrd.co

Someone interviewed one of us at: https://medium.com/@viridiangrail/interview-with-a-drone-bc5c226d63a0

A drone wrote a song about the social challenges of being a drone in a binary society at: https://soundcloud.com/ivysharkgrail/dont-make-me-choose

And apparently we're on the nonbinary wiki now