Reddit is killing RSS feeds and ending public API access because of AI bots

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[–] 61 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

not really. Anyone who relied on the API has already left

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Not entirely. I tried to leave when they enforced the initial API changes, but there's just not enough content on Lemmy to satisfy me. I ended up finding Relay for Reddit which uses the API and costs me a couple dollars a month. I still won't contribute to Reddit anymore (no voting, posting, or commenting), but it was a great way to get content from my long curated lost of subreddits. Now I won't be able to use the Relay app anymore. I'm never using the Reddit app, so that leaves browsing on mobile using Firefox with uBlock Origin and Reddit Bouncer to cut through all the shit. I'm not sure I'll actually browse that way, but I didn't think I'd go back at all after the initial API changes either.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Interesting side effect that this will probably kill off some of the Reddit repost bots over here

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Sanitation and his army of bots operate through a Firefox extension so I think we'll still get the trash posts from reddit, at least!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Is there anywhere to track him?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    SMCF posted a list not too long ago but I'm not sure where it is.

    Sanitation, Time2lose, oldmanalex, grumpus_maximus, mustachio_grumpus (or something), noralenderbee, liquorice. Those are the ones I remember

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    [–] 27 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    It usually comes in waves whenever reddit does this. We'll see a modest bump. Some will stay, some will go back. It's just on us to welcome those who come over and hope they stay.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Some nonzero amount, sure. But there's never going to be a mass exodus where the entire userbase jumps ship.

    Look at how many people still use Twitter even now.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Back in my day we had the Digg to Reddit exodus.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    It’s pretty impressive how effective and total that migration was. I don’t think it could ever happen these days.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    It's much bigger now.

    During the first migration it was mostly techie people and college kids who all could keep up. But now there's completely non-tech aware people on Reddit daily and exceptionally niche forums without another real alternative.

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    [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    well, i literally just spun up a instance because of it

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    [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Probably some. I would guess that it would be less-significant than the influx with the third-party-client fiasco.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    I think a handful but, not a another max exodus.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm happy with how it is now. There's still a bunch of power mad mods here, but, by and large, it's so much better than that cesspit.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Agree that mods are more of a problem here than Reddit. Never been banned from a sub on Reddit in +15 years, here it took a couple months, but everything else is still better. The constant ads made to look like posts was the last straw for me.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    I think mods on reddit used to be worse honestly. Maybe like a decade ago or slightly more. Just my opinion though.

    Mods here be fuckin losers though tbh. Like just shut up and remove the spam bots you dweebs

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Those people will show up and see all the soapy tiddy memes and know that this is home

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    TBH I'm not convinced enough real humans still use reddit for a new exodus to happen.

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    [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Nah, I don't really think so. People who use Reddit don't use RSS or the API.

    I kinda like that they're becoming more openly hostile. It's fun to watch.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I kinda like that they're becoming more openly hostile. It's fun to watch.

    I still can't believe they just came out and said that new users switching to Old Reddit is a problem that needs to be fixed, by removing their access to Old Reddit. You'd think they'd try to word it in a more deceptive manner at least. Or just keep it to themselves.

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    [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Nope. Reddit appeals to the same type of people that use AI. It’s army of bots will tell them exactly what they want to hear, and the authoritarian clowns that mod that shithole will ban anyone for speaking out against the hive.

    So, as long as you agree with everyone and are okay with everyone agreeing with whatever you say in subs that don’t allow anyone to speak freely, you’ll be fine.

    Basically, it’s the social media equivalent of a HOA nightmare.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I'll make a wild guess that you too came here from reddit. That makes you one of those people. We're all just redditors telling ourself a comforting story about how we're better than those people over there.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    I certainly make no bones about it, I miss parts of it. Reddit had fervent hobby subs that just aren't here or are barely here. Memes are cool, and news is important, but unless gaming or Linux are your primary hobbies, this place is severely limited. And I've heard the old "be the change you want to see" adage , but I have no interest, no idea how, and no time for starting or moderating a community. Hell, I can barely make myself post when I think I have a subject of interest because I might have to answer too many replies/comments. But man, what I would give for an active bonsai or diy electronics comm.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    Is a rat fleeing a sinking ship still a ship's rat? A fair few people moved to reddit from Digg, and 4chan once the /pol/ cancer metastatised all over it a bit later on. I preferred forums personally until reddit ate most of them, and now reddit is a shithole I'm on Lemmy and have nothing to do with reddit, don't even lurk there now. The kind of people with a low threshold for moving aren't necessarily representative of the group they're leaving; I don't think we'll see a really massive migration from reddit, and I don't think we'd actually benefit from it either.

    You have to enjoy a place while you can, either outright failure or Eternal September awaits every online community eventually. One day people will bang on about this being Lemmy's golden age, before the legions of dopamine jockeys found it. Personally I quite like how discussions taking place over days rather than hours makes Lemmy genuinely pretty different from reddit, even if it's mostly made up of ex-redditors.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    God bless you, Lemmy.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Part of me hopes so, part of me does not.

    On the one hand, I'm finding that the turnover for new posts doesn't seem to be as great as on Reddit; once I go through my digest here: that's it. Of course, with an influx of new people come the riffraff.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    it's gonna bring over a few more techie folks. yay?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Closed systems and the degradation of the network. Connecting to the information super highway is going to become Mad Max

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    [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    well, I'm a new user.

    I've been churning accounts on reddit for a long time because you get banned by some subs just for posting or subscribing to other subs, then you post there not remembering the preemptive ban and bam, permaban. fed up with that noise, and having to churn accounts like a fucking outlaw.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    i think people will relent, and make a account to login instead. tiktok, instagram,fb did this.

    some will move here though.

    the only other way is reddit starts banning alot of people again, but then they will just lose too much USER-generated content for AI again.

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