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[–] 2 points 50 minutes ago

I heard they're also going to be putting them on mail carriers. It's only a matter of time until postmen start getting cut down like flock cameras are.

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  • Wow. I mean, it’s a really obvious play, but… wow.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 hours ago (3 children)
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    The thing is, you don't need an "ALPR" system on the vehicle. That can be done remotely after the fact. My point is, it's worse than you might be thinking.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago* (1 child)

    I’m aware. As I said in the linked comment, I’m more concerned about the data being collected than I am about being recorded.

    In the long term people need to control the collection and use of the data and establish some significant penalties for misuse. It would be nice if, in the US, we could establish that any data gathered by ALPRs is covered under the 4th amendment and require a warrant for starters.

    I also think the data should be required to be stored by the government agency utilizing it, no third parties.

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  • [–] 53 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Can't hide behind "it's a private company surveiling you" when it's mounted on federal property

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  • [–] 35 points 4 hours ago

    Its website says Next Base’s cameras record in up to 4K, and can capture every “license plate” with precision. The cameras don’t run automatic license plate reader (ALPR) software, though.

    But the servers do, that goes unspoken of course.

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    Sounds like the same thing one or two cities in Texas put on the trash trucks. Giving addresses a blight score and sending citations for things like trash and broken down vehicles.

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  • [–] 45 points 4 hours ago

    Oh, neat! So like, daily surveillance routes for everyone!

    :-/

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago

    Now THATS mass surveillance.

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    [–] 12 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    ...so they can sell it to the highest bidder and line Trump pockets

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  • [–] 4 points 1 hour ago

    So the know the daily movements of anyone who speaks out against them.

    They will slowly boil into acting on it, but god damn are they setting the stage.

    Couple this with the fact that soon the only computing devices you will be able to buy are low memory tablets and other walled-garden locked down tech devices dependent on the cloud.

    One bad tweet against Emperor Musk or Demigod Trump and they’ll fucking destroy you by cutting off your access to pay your bills.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 hours ago
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    Flock cameras for your neighborhood.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    That means it looks directly at the road to check for potholes, right?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    That would require them to look forward or backwards, at all. The Texas trash trucks with this shir have them mounted to the side. Because they're intended to find issues they can cite your property for violations and score your neighborhood like an HOA Karen would.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    I get it, like the vans on V for Vendetta.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 hours ago

    You have been Vanned

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago

    Pretty soon it won't just be dogs attacking the mailman, poor bastards.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

    Article didn't say anything more specific than "help identify roadway conditions and support community safety"

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  • [–] 12 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

    Sure, just like that Ring ad where their new software was only going to be looking for lost dogs ....

    Plus, once they're approved for one use, it's incredibly easy to slip in a provision for other uses as well. That whole "we're doing this to protect the children" thing they keep bleating.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    What else could ‘community safety’ mean here? They’re planning it from the start.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    Even ignoring the surveillance state part... citing your property for ordinance violations. Dallas, Texas trash trucks already do that through a system like this.

    They 100% would justify ordinance citations alone as "community safety".

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Don't most cars do that now?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 hours ago

    Yes, but mail vans go to just about every single address and are operated by the federal government directly. There's no hoops the feds need to go through to get the footage (I mean, there already isn't much, but still, this removes the little hoops that remained).

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