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[–] 3 points 57 minutes ago*

I don't think Bernie would have made gas this high with a war...

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  • [–] 17 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    It's a long-honored tradition that liberals fuck over progressives.

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  • [–] 2 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

    I get downvoted every time I call out establishment liberal dems for things like backtracking on trans rights, etc, in order to entice conservative voters, who will probably never vote for them, based on their so-called effective campaign platform of “Orange man bad,” without any message of changing material conditions for citizens.

    Dems willing to compromise in order to get elected and maintain their seats will absolutely join with GOP on issues like trans rights. I don’t know how the “vote blue line” gaslighters can’t comprehend this.

    The reason the hold so much responsibility in this is they’re supposed to be the buffer against crazy alt-right fascism, but so many capitulate to it, like Hakeem Jeffries. They should be the ones fighting things like genocide in Gaza. Instead, they take the same AIPAC money, when they could be championing human rights and trying to pull anti-Zionist GOPs towards their direction, not the other way around.

    Case in point: Reagancrats and Clinton. Liberal Dems don’t stand up for workers, they just go with the zeitgeist of the times. Because they inside trade and take bribes from special interests, too. They are not pro-worker or pro-social justice, they are pro-status quo.

    I believe in voting. Vote! Don’t sit at home. Vote for candidates who are truly leftists and pro-worker and pro-human rights.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 hours ago (17 children)

    Jesus, what more could possibly be said about this a full ten years after?

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  • [+] -19 points 8 hours ago (13 children)

    Since they're still beating the dead horse I've got something different to say:

    Bernie Sanders lost the primaries by Millions of votes. Not Thousands, Not Hundreds of Thousands, but Millions.

    He wasn't even a DNC member and he got invited in the first place.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (12 children)

    Sure, but he was already losing by an overwhelming majority before anyone voted. Hillary had something like 40 delegates already.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 hours ago* (11 children)

    So you're saying that if Bernie started with 40 more delegates that MILLIONS more people would have voted for him instead? Fat chance, pal.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 hours ago (10 children)

    If it doesn’t matter, then why not just make it fair?

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  • [+] -9 points 6 hours ago* (9 children)

    If you want me to come up with a reason why the person who receives millions more votes should become the representative then clearly you oppose democracy and idgaf about your opinion on anything.

    Being chosen by the people is what is fair.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

    Isn't that the popular vote?...

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  • [–] -1 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    Popular vote: HRC: 16,917,853 Bernie: 13,210,550
    Percentage: 55.2%, 43.1%

    We've been discussing how Bernie lost the popular vote this entire time. It was a brutal defeat where he was 2 digit percent margin. Even worse, in 2020 he lost to Joseph Biden when Biden literally doubled his vote.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Thanks. Not American so not very knowledgeable but appreciate the clarification.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    There is a concerted effort to keep everyone in the dark about this, including Americans, so it's totally understandable.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 hours ago

    Bro it's fucking exhausting how many progressive spaces refuse to admit that Bernie didn't fucking get the votes to be the nominee. By like, a landslide.

    I do think that in hindsight Clinton should have made him her VP choice though.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

    Indeed. Considering her performance in the primary, I was certain she was going to win the general. I was so sure, in fact, that I did a little oopsie and forget to vote. Happens to us all, right?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    You're the one who sat out voting against a guy who was pretty much a known rapist, so that's your call.

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  • [+] -19 points 3 hours ago

    Oh come the fuck on.

    It's been a decade at this point. Bernie lost because he had fewer votes than a former First Lady, and senator who has been a part of the party for decades.

    Bernie lost because, in his entire tenure in the senate, he didn't want to join the team. He sat off on the sidelines (voting with the democrats but not being a part of the apparatus), and then decided he wanted to be the captain of the football team.

    Did the super delegates favor the establishment choice? Yeah. They favored her over the guy who joined the party that summer to run for president. Is this really that surprising to people?

    It's been a fucking decade. If online liberals put half as much energy into organizing that they did complaining about Bernie losing then trump would never have been fucking elected in the first place.

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  • [+] -12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    Ah look, people who want division in the left, right before the generals. I wonder what their true intentions might be. /s

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