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[–] 6 points 11 hours ago (26 children)

Jesus, what more could possibly be said about this a full ten years after?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    The article is really about how the situation informs the current landscape and strategy for 2026 and 2028, but I guess you didn't read it before commenting

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  • [–] -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    I 100% did not. That's why my comment was in the form of a question. Because I couldn't, and still can't, imagine what a primary 10 years ago has to say about our current landscape that wouldn't be better understood through recent campaigns like Mamdani's, el-Sayed's, and pre-scandal Platner's. Or if we need to examine losses, any of the times when the progressive got boxed out. Bernie had an entire second run between now and then.

    The reason they frame it with Bernie is not because Bernie's run is more demonstrative of important current dynamics, it's because it's the progressive lost Lost Cause that will get clicks. Or in my case, not get clicks because literally everything that needs to be said about that election has already been said. Because it was 10 fucking years ago and people have been talking about it repeatedly for a literal decade.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago (3 children)

    I mean, for the last ten years people have been telling me I’m a conspiracy theorist for saying that the DNC fucked over Sanders, so I appreciate this article for backing me up lol

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    All of that stuff in the book was more or less out in the open and publicity known during the primary campaign. Leftists and progressives could have registered to vote in the primary, and if they had none of the fuckery would have amounted to anything. But they didn't and Hillary got nearly double the votes Bernie did. Also Bernie isn't a democrat, everybody ignores this, of course the democratic party would favor an actual democrat for their nomination, but I digress. If leftists and progressives actually voted he'd have won, but they didn't, and it wasn't remotely close.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Oh my God, how did you not already find one of the hundreds of other articles that gave that same validation in the last 10 years? If you were waiting for this moment for that, that's pretty much on you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    This is an interview with Sanders' chief campaign strategist about his new book dissecting the 2016 primary. If you don't care about it then fine, whatever. But you're clearly commenting on what you imagine the article is, not what it actually is

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  • [+] -23 points 11 hours ago (17 children)

    Since they're still beating the dead horse I've got something different to say:

    Bernie Sanders lost the primaries by Millions of votes. Not Thousands, Not Hundreds of Thousands, but Millions.

    He wasn't even a DNC member and he got invited in the first place.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 hours ago (16 children)

    Sure, but he was already losing by an overwhelming majority before anyone voted. Hillary had something like 40 delegates already.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    And if all the Bernie supporters had actually registered and voted in the primary they could have changed that, but they didn't. Bernie supporters not voting for Bernie in the primary are the main cause of Bernie losing.

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  • [+] -12 points 9 hours ago* (14 children)

    So you're saying that if Bernie started with 40 more delegates that MILLIONS more people would have voted for him instead? Fat chance, pal.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

    If it doesn’t matter, then why not just make it fair?

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  • [–] 1 point 58 minutes ago

    What fuckin fair? It may be bullshit but it's a private party, literally, and they didn't need to let Bernie run at all, but they did. Quit moving the goalposts. The facts remain no matter what the DNC did or didn't do Bernie lost the primary, overwhelmingly, because nobody voted for him.

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  • [+] -15 points 9 hours ago* (11 children)

    If you want me to come up with a reason why the person who receives millions more votes should become the representative then clearly you oppose democracy and idgaf about your opinion on anything.

    Being chosen by the people is what is fair.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

    Isn't that the popular vote?...

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  • [–] -3 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

    Popular vote: HRC: 16,917,853 Bernie: 13,210,550
    Percentage: 55.2%, 43.1%

    We've been discussing how Bernie lost the popular vote this entire time. It was a brutal defeat where he was 2 digit percent margin. Even worse, in 2020 he lost to Joseph Biden when Biden literally doubled his vote.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

    Thanks. Not American so not very knowledgeable but appreciate the clarification.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    There is a concerted effort to keep everyone in the dark about this, including Americans, so it's totally understandable.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Bro it's fucking exhausting how many progressive spaces refuse to admit that Bernie didn't fucking get the votes to be the nominee. By like, a landslide.

    I do think that in hindsight Clinton should have made him her VP choice though.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

    Indeed. Considering her performance in the primary, I was certain she was going to win the general. I was so sure, in fact, that I did a little oopsie and forget to vote. Happens to us all, right?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    You're the one who sat out voting against a guy who was pretty much a known rapist, so that's your call.

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