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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 43 points 11 hours ago (26 children) Someone on true anon I think today or yesterday mentioned how online games have all become nazi rallies. permalink fedilink source hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 1 point 3 hours ago Is this a new phenomenon? I feel like that’s been the case since at least like 2005 (I was not playing online games before that) permalink fedilink source parent [–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 16 points 8 hours ago (3 children) I used to love playing online PC games but it has been about 20 years ago now. I remember back in the day in Counter-strike and similar games you would hear a lot of slurs and anti-gay insults, and it struck me as mostly idiot 12 year olds attempting to be edgelords. Are legit racists now using games as a rally point or is it just seen as a pseudo anonymous place to say cringe edgelord shit like they did 20 years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago There is definitely a large demographic of "What's wrong with fascism??" and "I think Hitler was a pretty cool guy" chuds in online games. People like Asmongold are just the most forward facing but they all have pretty similar beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crandall@lemmy.today 7 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Those 12 year olds are now middle aged, but doing the same behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago Well yeah, everyone is 12 now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago but also, a lot of WoW players are women permalink fedilink source parent [–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago Yeah, there was an r/trueanon post about that. Connecting it to Epstein and Bannon using gamers as a right wing youth incubator IIRC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 24 points 10 hours ago (1 child) It sucks because I really like online games but they're all full of the absolute worst fucking people you could ever possibly meet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago My favorite online games are shit like Souls games and Death Stranding - overall solitary experiences with mild positive wordless interactions from strangers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Inui@hexbear.net 22 points 10 hours ago* (11 children) They were literally having "anti-Horde"/"anti-immigration" rallies in Stormwind in-game, complete with real racial slur analogues for Horde races. Blizzard and Twitch already suck for other reasons, but they're ultra cowards for not perma banning him and all his cave dwelling fans a long time ago. Even other streamers are playing Horde to avoid having to associate with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago (8 children) The fantasy racism always gives me some side-eye at this point, like it's very easy for the people that get way too excited about how much they hate gnomes to translate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 14 points 9 hours ago As a thing in fiction that serves as a crude allegory for IRL racism it usually adds some flavor to the setting because people do be racist But yeah these guys are absolutely using it as a substitute permalink fedilink source parent [–] Inui@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago* (6 children) I don't think it's always bad and sometimes just poking fun, like "haha silly orcs how dare you think you could beat me", but when someone makes it their whole roleplay gimmick or says stuff like that all the time, it's for sure a red flag. Like humans hating undead is a strongly established thing, so being an anti-undead zealot fits the setting. But these people are the equivalent of Elder Scrolls fans calling Argonians and Khajit "farm tools" because they're enslaved by the Dunmer in-game. In this case, all their terms were similar to stuff like "wireback" being used for AI/robots by Star Wars people not that long ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 13 points 9 hours ago (4 children) These people aren't roleplaying, it's always about gnomes, and while I don't always think they're doing anything except participating in a fairly common trope that's existed in WoW communities for probably a couple decades it's also regularly used as code for their actual prejudice against Jewish people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children) And they’re oddly enough always people who think Israel is the heckin’ most wholesome country ever and if you dare think they can do any wrong, you’re antisemitic! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago Zionism is an inherently antisemitic ideology that requires believing that Jewish people are inherently different and can’t integrate into other societies permalink fedilink source parent [–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago This group is becoming smaller and smaller. Chuds generally don't like Israel anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago I did have one guy last week try to tell me that Epstein not only wasn't a Mossad agent but actually supported Palestine but that's seemingly an aberration nowadays permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago And it's hard to call them out because so much of it is already in the text, they can always claim they're just playing along. I remember a couple of Blood Elf /jokes: "We're allies with the Tauren? Fantastic! We'll be having steak twice a week." "So I was in the Undercity the other day and this Forsaken woman asks me if I want a facial. I said, 'You don't have a lower jaw, and you want to give me a facial?' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] citations_wheated@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago it's my view that failure to punish shitheads is a result of mods and staff being part of said shitheads on their personal time (see also: slavecatchers peace officers police at protests) permalink fedilink source parent [+] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 1 point 8 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 14 points 9 hours ago Wonder what % of that is due to Bannon and Epstein. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 25 points 11 hours ago* (1 child) You really can’t help but give furries huge credit for (mostly) keeping nazis out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 10 points 10 hours ago I haven't played retail WoW in a long time but the current private server I'm on I found a guild with several trans people and assume that's a strong litmus test for not having to listen to reactionaries permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheFinalCapitalist@hexbear.net 18 points 11 hours ago Its where alot of lonely folk get social interaction and nazis love recruiting socially isolated peoples permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carl@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago there's a few exceptions but permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 1 point 3 hours ago Is this a new phenomenon? I feel like that’s been the case since at least like 2005 (I was not playing online games before that) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 16 points 8 hours ago (3 children) I used to love playing online PC games but it has been about 20 years ago now. I remember back in the day in Counter-strike and similar games you would hear a lot of slurs and anti-gay insults, and it struck me as mostly idiot 12 year olds attempting to be edgelords. Are legit racists now using games as a rally point or is it just seen as a pseudo anonymous place to say cringe edgelord shit like they did 20 years ago? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago There is definitely a large demographic of "What's wrong with fascism??" and "I think Hitler was a pretty cool guy" chuds in online games. People like Asmongold are just the most forward facing but they all have pretty similar beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crandall@lemmy.today 7 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Those 12 year olds are now middle aged, but doing the same behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago Well yeah, everyone is 12 now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago There is definitely a large demographic of "What's wrong with fascism??" and "I think Hitler was a pretty cool guy" chuds in online games. People like Asmongold are just the most forward facing but they all have pretty similar beliefs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crandall@lemmy.today 7 points 8 hours ago (1 child) Those 12 year olds are now middle aged, but doing the same behavior permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago Well yeah, everyone is 12 now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago Well yeah, everyone is 12 now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago but also, a lot of WoW players are women permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago Yeah, there was an r/trueanon post about that. Connecting it to Epstein and Bannon using gamers as a right wing youth incubator IIRC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 24 points 10 hours ago (1 child) It sucks because I really like online games but they're all full of the absolute worst fucking people you could ever possibly meet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago My favorite online games are shit like Souls games and Death Stranding - overall solitary experiences with mild positive wordless interactions from strangers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago My favorite online games are shit like Souls games and Death Stranding - overall solitary experiences with mild positive wordless interactions from strangers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Inui@hexbear.net 22 points 10 hours ago* (11 children) They were literally having "anti-Horde"/"anti-immigration" rallies in Stormwind in-game, complete with real racial slur analogues for Horde races. Blizzard and Twitch already suck for other reasons, but they're ultra cowards for not perma banning him and all his cave dwelling fans a long time ago. Even other streamers are playing Horde to avoid having to associate with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago (8 children) The fantasy racism always gives me some side-eye at this point, like it's very easy for the people that get way too excited about how much they hate gnomes to translate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 14 points 9 hours ago As a thing in fiction that serves as a crude allegory for IRL racism it usually adds some flavor to the setting because people do be racist But yeah these guys are absolutely using it as a substitute permalink fedilink source parent [–] Inui@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago* (6 children) I don't think it's always bad and sometimes just poking fun, like "haha silly orcs how dare you think you could beat me", but when someone makes it their whole roleplay gimmick or says stuff like that all the time, it's for sure a red flag. Like humans hating undead is a strongly established thing, so being an anti-undead zealot fits the setting. But these people are the equivalent of Elder Scrolls fans calling Argonians and Khajit "farm tools" because they're enslaved by the Dunmer in-game. In this case, all their terms were similar to stuff like "wireback" being used for AI/robots by Star Wars people not that long ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 13 points 9 hours ago (4 children) These people aren't roleplaying, it's always about gnomes, and while I don't always think they're doing anything except participating in a fairly common trope that's existed in WoW communities for probably a couple decades it's also regularly used as code for their actual prejudice against Jewish people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children) And they’re oddly enough always people who think Israel is the heckin’ most wholesome country ever and if you dare think they can do any wrong, you’re antisemitic! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago Zionism is an inherently antisemitic ideology that requires believing that Jewish people are inherently different and can’t integrate into other societies permalink fedilink source parent [–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago This group is becoming smaller and smaller. Chuds generally don't like Israel anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago I did have one guy last week try to tell me that Epstein not only wasn't a Mossad agent but actually supported Palestine but that's seemingly an aberration nowadays permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago And it's hard to call them out because so much of it is already in the text, they can always claim they're just playing along. I remember a couple of Blood Elf /jokes: "We're allies with the Tauren? Fantastic! We'll be having steak twice a week." "So I was in the Undercity the other day and this Forsaken woman asks me if I want a facial. I said, 'You don't have a lower jaw, and you want to give me a facial?' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] citations_wheated@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago it's my view that failure to punish shitheads is a result of mods and staff being part of said shitheads on their personal time (see also: slavecatchers peace officers police at protests) permalink fedilink source parent [+] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 1 point 8 hours ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago (8 children) The fantasy racism always gives me some side-eye at this point, like it's very easy for the people that get way too excited about how much they hate gnomes to translate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 14 points 9 hours ago As a thing in fiction that serves as a crude allegory for IRL racism it usually adds some flavor to the setting because people do be racist But yeah these guys are absolutely using it as a substitute permalink fedilink source parent [–] Inui@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago* (6 children) I don't think it's always bad and sometimes just poking fun, like "haha silly orcs how dare you think you could beat me", but when someone makes it their whole roleplay gimmick or says stuff like that all the time, it's for sure a red flag. Like humans hating undead is a strongly established thing, so being an anti-undead zealot fits the setting. But these people are the equivalent of Elder Scrolls fans calling Argonians and Khajit "farm tools" because they're enslaved by the Dunmer in-game. In this case, all their terms were similar to stuff like "wireback" being used for AI/robots by Star Wars people not that long ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 13 points 9 hours ago (4 children) These people aren't roleplaying, it's always about gnomes, and while I don't always think they're doing anything except participating in a fairly common trope that's existed in WoW communities for probably a couple decades it's also regularly used as code for their actual prejudice against Jewish people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children) And they’re oddly enough always people who think Israel is the heckin’ most wholesome country ever and if you dare think they can do any wrong, you’re antisemitic! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago Zionism is an inherently antisemitic ideology that requires believing that Jewish people are inherently different and can’t integrate into other societies permalink fedilink source parent [–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago This group is becoming smaller and smaller. Chuds generally don't like Israel anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago I did have one guy last week try to tell me that Epstein not only wasn't a Mossad agent but actually supported Palestine but that's seemingly an aberration nowadays permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago And it's hard to call them out because so much of it is already in the text, they can always claim they're just playing along. I remember a couple of Blood Elf /jokes: "We're allies with the Tauren? Fantastic! We'll be having steak twice a week." "So I was in the Undercity the other day and this Forsaken woman asks me if I want a facial. I said, 'You don't have a lower jaw, and you want to give me a facial?' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 14 points 9 hours ago As a thing in fiction that serves as a crude allegory for IRL racism it usually adds some flavor to the setting because people do be racist But yeah these guys are absolutely using it as a substitute permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Inui@hexbear.net 15 points 10 hours ago* (6 children) I don't think it's always bad and sometimes just poking fun, like "haha silly orcs how dare you think you could beat me", but when someone makes it their whole roleplay gimmick or says stuff like that all the time, it's for sure a red flag. Like humans hating undead is a strongly established thing, so being an anti-undead zealot fits the setting. But these people are the equivalent of Elder Scrolls fans calling Argonians and Khajit "farm tools" because they're enslaved by the Dunmer in-game. In this case, all their terms were similar to stuff like "wireback" being used for AI/robots by Star Wars people not that long ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 13 points 9 hours ago (4 children) These people aren't roleplaying, it's always about gnomes, and while I don't always think they're doing anything except participating in a fairly common trope that's existed in WoW communities for probably a couple decades it's also regularly used as code for their actual prejudice against Jewish people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children) And they’re oddly enough always people who think Israel is the heckin’ most wholesome country ever and if you dare think they can do any wrong, you’re antisemitic! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago Zionism is an inherently antisemitic ideology that requires believing that Jewish people are inherently different and can’t integrate into other societies permalink fedilink source parent [–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago This group is becoming smaller and smaller. Chuds generally don't like Israel anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago I did have one guy last week try to tell me that Epstein not only wasn't a Mossad agent but actually supported Palestine but that's seemingly an aberration nowadays permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago And it's hard to call them out because so much of it is already in the text, they can always claim they're just playing along. I remember a couple of Blood Elf /jokes: "We're allies with the Tauren? Fantastic! We'll be having steak twice a week." "So I was in the Undercity the other day and this Forsaken woman asks me if I want a facial. I said, 'You don't have a lower jaw, and you want to give me a facial?' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 13 points 9 hours ago (4 children) These people aren't roleplaying, it's always about gnomes, and while I don't always think they're doing anything except participating in a fairly common trope that's existed in WoW communities for probably a couple decades it's also regularly used as code for their actual prejudice against Jewish people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children) And they’re oddly enough always people who think Israel is the heckin’ most wholesome country ever and if you dare think they can do any wrong, you’re antisemitic! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago Zionism is an inherently antisemitic ideology that requires believing that Jewish people are inherently different and can’t integrate into other societies permalink fedilink source parent [–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago This group is becoming smaller and smaller. Chuds generally don't like Israel anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago I did have one guy last week try to tell me that Epstein not only wasn't a Mossad agent but actually supported Palestine but that's seemingly an aberration nowadays permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children) And they’re oddly enough always people who think Israel is the heckin’ most wholesome country ever and if you dare think they can do any wrong, you’re antisemitic! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago Zionism is an inherently antisemitic ideology that requires believing that Jewish people are inherently different and can’t integrate into other societies permalink fedilink source parent [–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago This group is becoming smaller and smaller. Chuds generally don't like Israel anymore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago I did have one guy last week try to tell me that Epstein not only wasn't a Mossad agent but actually supported Palestine but that's seemingly an aberration nowadays permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago Zionism is an inherently antisemitic ideology that requires believing that Jewish people are inherently different and can’t integrate into other societies permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago This group is becoming smaller and smaller. Chuds generally don't like Israel anymore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago I did have one guy last week try to tell me that Epstein not only wasn't a Mossad agent but actually supported Palestine but that's seemingly an aberration nowadays permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago And it's hard to call them out because so much of it is already in the text, they can always claim they're just playing along. I remember a couple of Blood Elf /jokes: "We're allies with the Tauren? Fantastic! We'll be having steak twice a week." "So I was in the Undercity the other day and this Forsaken woman asks me if I want a facial. I said, 'You don't have a lower jaw, and you want to give me a facial?' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] citations_wheated@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago it's my view that failure to punish shitheads is a result of mods and staff being part of said shitheads on their personal time (see also: slavecatchers peace officers police at protests) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 14 points 9 hours ago Wonder what % of that is due to Bannon and Epstein. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 25 points 11 hours ago* (1 child) You really can’t help but give furries huge credit for (mostly) keeping nazis out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 10 points 10 hours ago I haven't played retail WoW in a long time but the current private server I'm on I found a guild with several trans people and assume that's a strong litmus test for not having to listen to reactionaries permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 10 points 10 hours ago I haven't played retail WoW in a long time but the current private server I'm on I found a guild with several trans people and assume that's a strong litmus test for not having to listen to reactionaries permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFinalCapitalist@hexbear.net 18 points 11 hours ago Its where alot of lonely folk get social interaction and nazis love recruiting socially isolated peoples permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Carl@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago there's a few exceptions but permalink fedilink source parent
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