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[–] 57 points 4 days ago (8 children)

This is what my job is becoming. The suits (and seemingly most of my coworkers) are excited that this is becoming the job. We don't work 12 hour days, and the use of LLMs/agentic "AI" hasn't ramped up to that level yet, but my employer is clearly gunning for that. They finalized a contract with Anslopic recently and even had one of their goons give a keynote speech at a company event with vibe-generated powerpoint slides, and they're rolling out the Clod Code licenses devs will be mandated to use.

We are so going to become a bunch of easily replaceable deskilled husks. Employers soon won't need high salaries, good benefits, and WFH to entice us. Soon, the software engineer will be making as much as the fry cook.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 days ago

    I got let go from my software dev job a few years ago, right before all this bullshit cropped up. I ended up taking half the salary I used to make for a software support role instead. People love this slop here too and keep encouraging us to use it for our documentation and shit but so far I've never been forced to engage with it at least. My manager is subtle about it but seems to feel the same way luckily.

    If it's getting pushed on us so hard in a support role, I can't even fathom what it'd be like trying to slog through a dev role with everyone worshiping this garbage.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)
  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    It outputs compilable/runable code. And if it doesn't it can process error messages and retry until it outputs compilable/runable code.

    Sucks that this is my life for now or to have to look for something else eventually but even worse is to consider how this rollout might effect other industries where just trying shit until it sort of works is actually extremely harmful.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    it is already harmful in this industry lol

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    Yeah but it has to be so much worse with anything where you don't have automated ways to verify shit. Not to say that it doesn't still make things worse.

    Something like OpenClaw connected to anything actually important is fucking terrifying and that's on an individual scale.

    Like they are already using this shit to write laws, lawyers use it at court. That's a whole nother level of everything is fucked.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago

    In my experience, for the very generic software engineering tasks I have given to LLMs, they are decent at writing code and refining it until it works. Sometimes the code is even pretty good. They have gotten much, much better as of late (last 6 months), and now even DeepSeek's cheapest model is solid for the narrow purpose of writing code.

    Now, this is not to say anything about the long term effects of this, where engineers have no idea how the codebase they are working on is structured, and all interactions with it have to go through the LLM, nor the broad negative societal consequences of using LLMs at scale, which would be far too long to enumerate in this comment.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 days ago

    For writing the glorified CRUD app for my B2B SaaS employer, the code it generates works well enough. Keep in mind that management never really cared about software quality even before the LLMs. It's hard to keep caring about the quality of the software as a code monkey because who the hell cares about making a good business software for corpos? Even if solving problems in the abstract can be fun for awhile, eventually it gets old.

    It's the software equivalent of adulterating food with sawdust to maximize profits.

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  • [–] 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    This is the story of a man named Stanley

    Stanley worked for a company in a big building where he was Employee Number 427.

    Employee Number 427's job was simple.

    He sat at his desk in Room 427, and he pushed buttons on a keyboard.

    Orders came to him through a monitor on his desk, telling him what buttons to push, how long to push them, and in what order.

    This is what Employee 427 did every day, of every month, of every year

    And although others might have considered it soul-rending, Stanley relished every moment that the orders came in, as though he had been made exactly for this job.

    And Stanley was happy.

    And then one day, something very peculiar happened, something that would forever change Stanley, something he would never quite forget.

    He had been at his desk for nearly an hour, when he realized that not one single order had arrived on the monitor for him to follow.

    No one had showed up to give him instructions, call a meeting, or even say "Hi."

    Never in all of his years at the company has this happened, this complete isolation.

    Something was very clearly wrong.

    Shocked, frozen solid, Stanley found himself unable to move for the longest time.

    But as he came to his wits and regained his senses, he got up from his desk, and stepped out of his office.

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    [–] 42 points 4 days ago (6 children)

    As a trans woman, i know a lot of girls and nonbinary beings who work in tech and almost all of them loathe the push towards AI (the few that don't are extremely sus, they are also the only ones making bank). It has gotten so bad that one of them recently changed to a different career because it couldn't stand this anymore. Like, it was neck-deep in burnout so bad it regularly had to take sick leave.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

    I was being pressured to make my workflow ai centric when I was let go from my last job and I was one of only two people there who refused to put a high level of trust into what the chatbot was spitting out (it was making very clear errors and often was just hallucinating in superficially convincing ways.) I've heard they have gotten good at code generation but this was a different kind of engineering anyway and one where safety was a huge concern. I ended up being laid off probably in part because of that.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    It legit boggles my mind that people are harrowing this as some sort of grand achievement. They’re supplying these things with unimaginable amounts of compute than asking them to make predictions based on an even more unimaginable amount of data

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    And it's still an unimaginably small sample of what it would need to operate accurately under the approach they're using.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    What's the problem? We feed the computer the sun and it'll solve all our problems... Which will also include needing a new sun because of the aforementioned giving the sun to the computer to solve our problems. But don't worry!! It can fix it all for us!

    this-is-fine

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  • [–] 34 points 4 days ago

    The current annoying trend is the push to do engineering CAD using AI prompts. There are a lot of problems with that idea, the most major one being the apparent confusing between "3D modeling" and "Computer Aided Design". But the other issues is that it's just not very fun... I like doing that design work, and it's not actually a major bottleneck to my work throughput.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 days ago

    The longer this lasts, the longer I believe that these LLM companies can continue operating at a massive loss. Idk I have no faith in anything anymore and almost everything seems fake

    They’re probably going to get bailed out by Trump when push comes to shove, who am I kidding

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  • [–] 16 points 4 days ago

    Yeah this shit blows.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 days ago

    @Elon_Musk@hexbear.net bravo! Perfect response to this loser engineer.

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